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  • fcsteve
    Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 227

    #1

    crank window conversion

    what do i need to do it ? do i just need the cranks or what ?
  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #2
    and manual regulators.

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    • fcsteve
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 227

      #3
      so all i need is cranks and manuel window regulators

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      • nosignal
        Wrencher
        • Oct 2007
        • 274

        #4
        Yeah, you'll just need the cranks and the manual window tracks. Remove the power stuff and install the manual components. I could probably do a write up if it's wanted when I do this in a couple of weeks - already got all the parts, just waiting to get the car out of storage.

        I didn't realize crank windows were so uncommon for U.S. E30s - I've only seen one in person (and it's the car I yanked the components from haha).
        ::: Present -- '87 325e, '95 525i
        ::: Past -- '91 318i, '95 540i/6, '85 323i Euro, '86 325es, '86 325e, '84 318i

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        • StereoInstaller1
          GAS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22679

          #5
          The regulators are the same, only the motor is added for the early cars.

          Closing SOON!
          "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

          Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

          Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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          • fcsteve
            Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 227

            #6
            Originally posted by nosignal
            Yeah, you'll just need the cranks and the manual window tracks. Remove the power stuff and install the manual components. I could probably do a write up if it's wanted when I do this in a couple of weeks - already got all the parts, just waiting to get the car out of storage.

            I didn't realize crank windows were so uncommon for U.S. E30s - I've only seen one in person (and it's the car I yanked the components from haha).
            a write up would be great.

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            • fcsteve
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 227

              #7
              Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
              The regulators are the same, only the motor is added for the early cars.
              everyone else seems to disagree. i dont know either way. where did you find that they ar the same ?

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #8
                check realoem.com

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                • AndrewBird
                  The Mad Scientist
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 11892

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fcsteve
                  everyone else seems to disagree. i dont know either way. where did you find that they ar the same ?
                  It seems he is correct FOR EARLY CARS (before 88). It looks like the only thing that was different was the motor was added. Although real OEM gives different part numbers for the power and non-power tracks.

                  For later cars (89 on), the whole assembly is different.

                  Early:
                  http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...04&hg=51&fg=10

                  Late:
                  http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...30&hg=51&fg=10

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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    How I know that is because my window regulator failed mid-summer 3 years ago.

                    My local pick-n-pull had only 1 E30, and it was an early 318i, all manual.

                    I grabbed the regulator in desperate hope for working window, took it home and bolted the motor on it.

                    Same one is still in my car today. Late model might be a whole different thing, I have NFC, but early (including the '88 325is parts car sitting at my shop) are all the same.

                    Closing SOON!
                    "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                    Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                    • smonkbmw
                      Professor
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 4549

                      #11
                      hmm, i wonder how much it would cost to swap the m3 to crank windows......

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11892

                        #12
                        Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                        How I know that is because my window regulator failed mid-summer 3 years ago.

                        My local pick-n-pull had only 1 E30, and it was an early 318i, all manual.

                        I grabbed the regulator in desperate hope for working window, took it home and bolted the motor on it.

                        Same one is still in my car today. Late model might be a whole different thing, I have NFC, but early (including the '88 325is parts car sitting at my shop) are all the same.
                        Well there you go!

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                        • TwoJ's
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4908

                          #13
                          But the real question is why would you want to do this? The only legitimate reason I can see would be if it were a track car. Otherwise, it seems like a waste of time, effort and money.

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                          • nosignal
                            Wrencher
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 274

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TwoJ's
                            But the real question is why would you want to do this? The only legitimate reason I can see would be if it were a track car. Otherwise, it seems like a waste of time, effort and money.
                            I can't speak for the OP, but I'm doing it because my passenger window motor is dead and rather than swap it and have it die again later on I'd rather just save myself the headache. It's an old german car - having owned several older VWs, I'm sticking to my "Less electronics to break, the better" philosophy. :)

                            The swap would take MAYBE an hour, and I paid like $4 for all the parts. So I figured why not?
                            ::: Present -- '87 325e, '95 525i
                            ::: Past -- '91 318i, '95 540i/6, '85 323i Euro, '86 325es, '86 325e, '84 318i

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                            • fcsteve
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 227

                              #15
                              my car is an 86. on real oem it looks like the mechanisms for the manuel and the power are different.

                              Originally posted by TwoJ's
                              But the real question is why would you want to do this? The only legitimate reason I can see would be if it were a track car. Otherwise, it seems like a waste of time, effort and money.
                              i have nothing but free time. its goin to save me weight, room, wiring, and all the headaches that come from the electrical problems i have in my car. my windows havnt worked in a couple weeks. its getting to summer now so its almost time that i can do my swap and a bunch of my other e30 projects that i plan on and have started. removing all that extra stuff would help me alot.

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