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    #16
    Scam. Let's see how it works in a controlled test environment.

    If you tell someone that they will get better mileage by using additive "X", they will subconsciously change their driving habits and will probably end up getting slightly better mileage, especially after they've spent $80.00 or so on the additive.

    Let's take two new, identical cars, put them both on Dyno's - one treated and one not treated and run them at the same speed, RPM, etc...over several tanks of gas and see the results.

    Why don't they do the above test and have the results verified by an independent 3rd party?

    Companies like Ethos never does any type of this controlled testing, they instead cherry-pick favorable testimonials and favorable results while excluding the one's that aren't.

    It's known as "lying by omission"

    Google the term "Ethos FR scam" and you'll see that not every one thinks its so great, and the one's who do are the people selling it.
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      #17
      Originally posted by E30_fiend View Post
      Yeah I've heard of this stuff. My mom is a distributor of it.

      The reason you add it to the oil too is because its basically an all around additive. Kinda like Lucas additives.

      Its good shit. My mom went from getting 390 on a full tank to getting 475. She gets over 100 miles on a quarter tank

      Try it.


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      Did you ever run it in your E30? Seems like you are our best test subject since you have access to it.

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        #18
        Gonna try a bottle. Ill let you all know how it does when cruising down to bimmerfest, and daily driving afte that.

        That's right... I put down $26 for testing on behalf of the "community." Wish me luck ok?

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          #19
          Dude, sick. If it works for you to bfest, I'll buy some for WA. I would anyway right now but I'm broke enough I'm worrying just about gas and expesnses rather than an extra ~50 bucks on top of it. Maybe if you get the same mileage as I do, it works? :D Just kidding... Playing on the ~30 from WA. I still think that's nuts.

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            #20
            Originally posted by clavinZERO View Post
            Gonna try a bottle. Ill let you all know how it does when cruising down to bimmerfest, and daily driving afte that.

            That's right... I put down $26 for testing on behalf of the "community." Wish me luck ok?
            Good luck :)

            srsly though I think there are a lot of people who will be watching to see what happens!

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              #21
              yet another scam.. remember the turbinator? I guess if you're gullible enough to buy it, you probably didn't deserve that money anyway

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                #22
                I call bullshit, but I would like to see someone try it. I baby my car all over and I top out at just under 400 a tank. I almost want to get some just for shits and giggles. I always monitor how I drive to my attitude to driving wouldn't change.
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                  #23
                  ^ really, 400 to a tank with an s52? that must mean you're getting near 32mpg. I only get 22mpg in my m20 and I baby that shit.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                    ^ really, 400 to a tank with an s52? that must mean you're getting near 32mpg. I only get 22mpg in my m20 and I baby that shit.
                    no no no, this is on my DD mk3 with a 2.slow

                    I with the s52 did that good lol, I think I am sitting at 14mpg now.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                      ^ really, 400 to a tank with an s52? that must mean you're getting near 32mpg. I only get 22mpg in my m20 and I baby that shit.
                      I got like 30 in my M20 straight highway driving though coming home from the picnic last year. LAST exit in Vancouver WA to Weed CA and the low fuel light wasnt on yet. Less than 14 gallons =O.

                      Aaaaand no "additives" :D About 75 mph the whole way IIRC

                      But yeah, 22 is about the norm for me mixed highway/city if I don't stomp on it much.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by emi325i View Post
                        you probably didn't deserve that money anyway
                        I don't wanna e-fight, but that's a bit over the top.





                        I haven't seen anything like this stuff before. The other stuff I have seen is always like octane booster and stuff like that. This works in a different way I guess. I google'd it some. You should too, if nothing less than for shits and giggles.

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                          #27
                          well.. im tuned in.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by e30 Luv View Post
                            Did you ever run it in your E30? Seems like you are our best test subject since you have access to it.
                            Yeah I ran it and I still run it. I went from getting my normal 345 a tank with my heavy foot to getting nearly 400. 395 is about what I average on a tank. I try to stay somewhat neutral on how I drive but I still have a heavy foot. Not bad if you ask me.

                            To anyone that is skeptical, just try it. We have all spend countless dollars on stupid additives thinking they will work. But this stuff is a completely different fish. Its not an octane booster its an actual additive that mixes with the current fuel molecules and in short makes less fuel go a longer way. Not to mention you get 100 bucks in gas out of it.

                            Its worth it.


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                              #29
                              Sorry, but I'm not going to risk putting some "mystery" additive into my fuel when I have no idea what it does - especially after spending months of research, thousands of dollars, and hundreds of hours building/installing/tuning my engine.
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                                #30
                                for any skeptical guys, here's a link that was sent to my mom from the president of Ethos. After talking to the president and saying that there were a lot of people calling Ethos a scam he did some research to come up with a few news reports.

                                check it out:

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