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  • CorvallisBMW
    Long Schlong Longhammer
    • Feb 2005
    • 13039

    #16
    What bugs me isn't the fact that we wont get it, it's the fact that BMW has dropped research on a lightweight sports car to focus on SUVs. We always knew the US wouldn't get it anyways.

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    • Delphinitive
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 151

      #17
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
      What bugs me isn't the fact that we wont get it, it's the fact that BMW has dropped research on a lightweight sports car to focus on SUVs. We always knew the US wouldn't get it anyways.
      the CSL only really appeals to hardcore BMW fanatics that are rich as fuck. there is a huge price discrepancy between the GT-R and the CSL, most people looking to drop a large amount of money on a sports car would probably never even look at the CSL with the kind of price tag that BMW was suggesting. it's a prestige buy

      the GT-R is a lot of car for a good price. to release the CSL would have been an idiot move on the part of BMW's marketing team. there is simply a much larger market for a BMW SUV. this announcement should be no surprise to anyone who really put any thought to it.

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      • CorvallisBMW
        Long Schlong Longhammer
        • Feb 2005
        • 13039

        #18
        Originally posted by Delphinitive
        the CSL only really appeals to hardcore BMW fanatics that are rich as fuck. there is a huge price discrepancy between the GT-R and the CSL, most people looking to drop a large amount of money on a sports car would probably never even look at the CSL with the kind of price tag that BMW was suggesting. it's a prestige buy

        the GT-R is a lot of car for a good price. to release the CSL would have been an idiot move on the part of BMW's marketing team. there is simply a much larger market for a BMW SUV. this announcement should be no surprise to anyone who really put any thought to it.
        It's not about the marketing or making money, it's about the principle. SUV > CSL = FTL

        I know they would take a financial hit on it, I get it. But They didn't make any money on the first E9 CSL, or the E46 CSL, or the 507, and those are 3 of the greatest BMWs ever.

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        • Jon325i
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 6934

          #19
          Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
          It's not about the marketing or making money, it's about the principle. SUV > CSL = FTL
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          • idanity
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            • Jun 2006
            • 775

            #20
            are they still making the M1 ?


            i want one in black, i am actually amazed i found the m1 after posting about it earlier, but to add to above post about the amazing supercars that bmw has made, it is a shame to blow off a few hundred or even thousand new m3csl's
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            • DMF
              Advanced Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 150

              #21
              Germans have officially sold out.. Porsche making diesel SUVs, BMW finally making M SAV's..

              CSL would never be sold here anyway.. the people willing to pay that kind of money cannot even imagine not having a car without A/C and a radio.

              Not to mention all the dumb spoiled teenagers would kill themselves and their friends ;)

              The only thing that would make me happy about this business strategy is if the new M Powered X5 and X6s are as mad as their concept a few years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC33J-zMR78 - X5 LeMans V12 review by Hans Stuck

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #22
                Originally posted by idanity
                are they still making the M1 ?


                i want one in black, i am actually amazed i found the m1 after posting about it earlier, but to add to above post about the amazing supercars that bmw has made, it is a shame to blow off a few hundred or even thousand new m3csl's
                I don't think the new M1 is actually going to be a production model just yet, that one was an homage concept to the original, to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the original.

                I hadn't yet seen that profile shot of the car yet, I don't really like it from the front, but it looks really good from the side.

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                • mtechnik
                  R3V OG
                  • May 2006
                  • 6156

                  #23
                  Last I heard/read the M1 has been dropped too.

                  Waaaaa waaaaa :(



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                  • Charlie
                    kid tested, administrator approved
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 6686

                    #24
                    Psst, the 135i is the new CSL.

                    Hell, it's the new M3.

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                    • DMF
                      Advanced Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 150

                      #25
                      No, it isn't. It weighs as much as a E46. No real diff. and Turbos. Sheesh.

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                      • Erick
                        Official R3V Drifter
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11169

                        #26
                        Originally posted by mtechnik
                        Last I heard/read the M1 has been dropped too.

                        Waaaaa waaaaa :(
                        Correct.

                        And yes, the 135i is the new M3. The E90 M3 is the new M5.... the next M5 might as well be the new 7 series.
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                        • Jand3rson
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37587

                          #27
                          Originally posted by rwdrift
                          Correct.

                          And yes, the 135i is the new M3. The E90 M3 is the new M5.... the next M5 might as well be the new 7 series.
                          Sounds about right to me.

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                          • uofom3
                            R3V Elite
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 5392

                            #28
                            Originally posted by e34john
                            It’s just a shame that a spruced up SUV is more in demand than a lighter and more powerful version of one of the world’s best performance coupes.

                            [Source: Car Magazine]
                            True. But my x5 is the best car I've driven to date for daily use. I'm not surprised that the demand is high for these things. I would LOVE to get my hands in a true ///m version of the x5.
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                            • DSP74
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1121

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DMF
                              No, it isn't. It weighs as much as a E46. No real diff. and Turbos. Sheesh.

                              Out of curiosity how much does a 135i weigh? Diffs are easily swapped. But they do offer an LSD right. Turbos? Yeah finally we get some REAL torque. Especially once all the tuners start releasing more programing.
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                              • Jand3rson
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 37587

                                #30
                                I have to say, that would be pretty badass. Did anyone see that video of the V12 LeMans X5 being piloted around the 'Ring in anger by Hans Stuck? That thing had ZERO body roll, even around the tightest bends. If BMW could produce an ///M X5 that made even half the power that thing was making (like 750 hp or something?), and give it sport suspension, it would probably be a blast to drive. I know most of us aren't SUV fans, but we're not the market, and some people do make good use of them.

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