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    What I have been up to... dub content

    Thought I would post this up. A while ago I posted up my mk3 vr6 that I got with a blown motor that I was gonna swap a new one into. Well after trying to make the original engine fire up and that didn't work, I went a new direction.

    This year in class we have to rebuild a motor. My plan was to take out a fatty loan for the m3 and try to get as much done as I can. But taking out a $15k loan for my new jetta I can't afford to sink anything into the m3. So I am doing a build up on my mk3 vr6. The plan is just to sell the fucker when I'm done and try to get as close to breaking even on the whole deal as possible. I'm doing it for school not profit (although it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I made a few bucks on it)

    Ill play catchup on r3v and post up some pics of what I got done so far. Its finally starting to get interesting.

    This is the car when I first got it:







    So heres what I got done in the first 2 days.

    Almost read to pull, just need to get the exhaust off:





    Axles out



    My shambles of an interior this far:



    I think the ignition switch is dead. So this is how I have been testing the engine lol



    Compression is pretty pitiful, must have some pretty good damage or someone really ran this engine into the ground

    Dry Wet
    110 65
    90 100
    125 110
    65 75
    70 75
    120 130


    I think the wet is a little skewed, the battery was starting to die down when I was cranking.












    Also found this sitting under my window wiper when I came out



    I was parked in the staff lot... bastards...









    My work area filling up with parts



    Shop graffiti lol




    Better late then never, bolted on some fender covers.



    The connecting rods were BAD. Every bearing was shot to ****. Engine must have lost oil pressure because they were all wiped out. Main bearings were "ok" a lot better than the connecting rods, but 2 were scored.

    I'm hoping the crank can be salvaged, cyl 4 was pretty brutal though. The bearings spun out, stuck together, and just ate the crank away. Its blue and brown, scorched pretty bad. That connecting rod is bad too, again I'm hoping I can just have them re-machined and get some over sized bearings.

    Getting a new crank wouldn't be too big of a deal, but I don't want to buy new rods since the cheapest ones I could find were around $800. I guess worst case I could get some "good" used stock ones and have them re-worked. Since I'm not going FI or anything I don't see the point in forged rods.



    I thought my pics were better than this, but looking at them now they are pretty ****ty.



    This is the scorched one I think, ****ty as pics though. I will have to take some better ones tomorrow and learn how to use a camera lol



    This was cyl 4s bearing ** Ninja Edit: The top one is a non-broken bearing for comparison **



    I think its both halves, but its hard to tell. Looking at the "good" ones you can see where its 2 pieces of metal pressed together. Stacking the 2 in the pic like I took them out, (I had to pry them off the crank with a screw driver) its 3 layers. I think one is the top, and ones the bottom, but one of them got worn down a **** ton.





    Rod is pretty bad













    Crank STILL didn't turn out good lol, I have it zip tied to the leg of my table and I was too lazy to cut it off





    Piston skirts











    Oil pump gone!





    Walls aren't too bad, I have a pretty good rust edge up top though. Worst one I measured was cyl 4 again, wore out 4 thousands max on the wall.





    head



    I forgot to mention one of the head bolts bent on me, I think its because I messed up the order on taking the bolts out, I was off by 1 one 1 side



    starting to fill up....

    Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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    Also, I have been bored waiting for parts and other ****. So I have been cleaning and painting stuff...

    This is my badass oil pan, with a stealth ghost leaf on it

    Olive Drab green FTW

    Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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      #3
      Ok so this is today, 10-4-08 I just got a present in the mail. Pistons came in, on a Saturday even!

      Engine is off to get machines right now, I'm boring out 2mm more 81mm to 83mm. Also the pistons I got at 10.5:1 CR verses 10:1 stock. That with the mk4 HG will raise it to a final 11:1

      I need to track down a new connecting rod for sure now. Machine shop said my cyl4 that spun out is fucked. Still no word on if the crank will turn down. Best bearings they can find is 10 thous. undersized.









      Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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        #4
        Wow, looks fun! Thse VR6s are strange beasts!

        What do you expect power-wise with the over bore and higher CR?

        Care to snap a pic of the underside of the head?
        1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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          #5
          cool project, keep us updated!
          Originally posted by Dozyproductions
          You know why you're drinking that Pabst? No its probably not because it was the first beer you grabbed. It's because you're a winner.

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            #6
            i miss my passat vr6

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              #7
              Originally posted by SpecM View Post
              Wow, looks fun! Thse VR6s are strange beasts!

              What do you expect power-wise with the over bore and higher CR?

              Care to snap a pic of the underside of the head?
              I really don't know. Just pulling numbers more or less out of my ass I am going to guess 220ish crank hp. I know the 2.9 build just boreing out 1mm is about 15 more crank HP. 2.9's were the stock euro engine build, NA engines just had a smaller bore. I would suspect that 2mm would be another 15, or I am just very wrong. Also I am going to do some other things like SAI and postcat o2 delete curtsy of a chip which will add some more. Not to mention I'm going from 10:1 to 11:1.

              Head I don't know what I am going to do at this point. I'm going to see how bad the bottom end breaks my wallet before seeing what I can put into the head. I will have the basic shit done like cleaning and having it resurfaced. Then I will probably get a mild PnP and port match the intake and exhaust myself. I guess the real debate is if I will cam it or not. Aside from that the valves and other stuff I will leave the stock in and clean it up unless something is broken. HD Valve springs and retainers just really aren't worth it with the mild amount of mods it will have. If I really wanted more power I would go with oversized valves but thats gonna hurt bad financially lol.

              I can take some pics of the head monday or so. I thought it would have some wicked cabon build up because on the leakdown the exhaust leaked on every cylinder. However they don't look too horrible. But thats where I left off on the head, just not worrying about it right now.


              Edit:

              Also the car is getting a ton of other work done. All new pads and rotors, parking brake cables, and caliper rebuilds. Front end suspension and steering is getting redone. New tirerod assemblies, controls with all the bushings, swaybar links, etc etc. Gonna need some new wheel bearings too, the front left had a good 5mm of play in it lol.
              Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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                #8
                Wow looks like a lot of work, but thats gotta be fun.

                Looking at those underbody shots, is that car considered rusty? I am from San Diego so I don't know.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by e34john View Post
                  Wow looks like a lot of work, but thats gotta be fun.

                  Looking at those underbody shots, is that car considered rusty? I am from San Diego so I don't know.
                  Haha no, its uber clean for around here. It has a few small areas around the body, but nothing major. I'm going to roll the body over to autobody and have them take off the surface rust on the bottom and re-undercoat it all to stop the mild amount of rust it has now before it eats the whole car up in a few years.
                  Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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                    #10
                    wow sounds like that car got trashed
                    1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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                      #11
                      My buddy has a MK3 VR6, we just put a set of schrick cams MK4 HG, Techtonics chip, neuspeed intake, gutted intake mani, and a techtonics race exhaust system. That sucker hauls ass and sounds insane doing it!
                      1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SpecM View Post
                        wow sounds like that car got trashed
                        Yeah the PO thought it was a race car. I was told it lost oil pressure, and when I drained the oil it had 10 quarts in it. It was supposed to have 5.5. So I was trying to find a good used coil pack to see if it would run with the proper amount of oil in it. Ended up just buying a new aftermarket one since OE is VERY expensive. Didn't work. The ignition switch is shot so I jumped the starter relay and I could hear it just clank and clank.

                        Guy went through about 4 clutches in 2 years. I was told the one thats in it only had a few thousand on it. When I took it out it looks pretty much brand new, so I will reuse it. Just your standard Sachs replacement. I looked it over good and there isn't anything wrong with it, looks like it has 5k on it at best.
                        Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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                          #13
                          $15k loan for my new jetta
                          does not compute
                          Not that I care, of course.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by eric (^__^) View Post
                            does not compute
                            I was thinking the same thing. 1500 maybe?
                            turk@gutenparts.com

                            Originally posted by Janderson
                            Properly placed zip ties will hold bridges together.

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                              #15
                              No, my new jetta lol



                              I currently own 3. 1 is my old mk 2.0 that I am selling, the other is my mk3 vr6 which I am rebuilding, and my DD is the mk5 for driving.
                              Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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