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    #31
    Originally posted by chucko View Post
    I'd call vorshlag and explain your setup to them. They would know what you need to make it work.
    but if i can get the I.E. ones for under 300$ and they fit fine ide rather get those.

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      #32
      it seems to me that the IE and the orig. BMW ones "turner" you cannot adjust-- so for the money it def. seems the Vorschlag is the way to go.

      BTW, I have the turner "bmw orig." on my M3 to add even more neg. camber -- because it looks cool.... and they added alot- so to use them to try to bring the camber out of the suspension you might just end up with pos. camber then.

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        #33
        Originally posted by mikeedler View Post
        it seems to me that the IE and the orig. BMW ones "turner" you cannot adjust-- so for the money it def. seems the Vorschlag is the way to go.

        BTW, I have the turner "bmw orig." on my M3 to add even more neg. camber -- because it looks cool.... and they added alot- so to use them to try to bring the camber out of the suspension you might just end up with pos. camber then.

        thats what i figured, what if when i try to remove my camber its totally not where i want it? thats why i need the cheapest fully adjustable camber plate there is lol.

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          #34
          A lot of camber plates don't let you add positive camber so be sure the ones you buy will do that.
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            #35
            Originally posted by Fidhle007 View Post
            A lot of camber plates don't let you add positive camber so be sure the ones you buy will do that.
            do u mean if i put the plate on the most positive setting it has will still be the same if not more negetive camber then i already have? thats pretty stupid I.M.O. if they sell them like that.

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              #36
              Originally posted by joehasane30 View Post
              do u mean if i put the plate on the most positive setting it has will still be the same if not more negetive camber then i already have? thats pretty stupid I.M.O. if they sell them like that.
              That's exactly what I mean, and that's how they're sold. Must of us who are going to drop $300 on camber plates are doing it to improve handling, not to improve tire wear. If I wanted even tire wear I wouldn't drive a low car.
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                #37
                Originally posted by Fidhle007 View Post
                That's exactly what I mean, and that's how they're sold. Must of us who are going to drop $300 on camber plates are doing it to improve handling, not to improve tire wear. If I wanted even tire wear I wouldn't drive a low car.
                true that, but i still have the problem and i am definitly not raising my car to solve the problem, i do have a question tho, say i get the camber plates and they do give me less negetive camber, do u think that mite raise my car a little bit in the front with less camber so i can run a 40 tire instead of 45?

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                  #38
                  Joe, I called Vorschlag a couple of months ago.

                  Their attitude was basically "who gives a shit about tire wear, you need to corner faster", but they guy did explain that with stock replacement (ie "lowering: springs) there is just not enough room in the strut tower to make a whole lot of difference in camber.

                  I will have stock or nearly stock toe and camber before summer hits, I promise.

                  I have the spare subframe, I have the bitchin' 7 series bolts, now I need new bushings and to get to work.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post
                    Joe, I called Vorschlag a couple of months ago.

                    Their attitude was basically "who gives a shit about tire wear, you need to corner faster", but they guy did explain that with stock replacement (ie "lowering: springs) there is just not enough room in the strut tower to make a whole lot of difference in camber.

                    I will have stock or nearly stock toe and camber before summer hits, I promise.

                    I have the spare subframe, I have the bitchin' 7 series bolts, now I need new bushings and to get to work.

                    so basically the vorshlag wont do much positive for me?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by joehasane30 View Post
                      just got one, its the camber, trust me.
                      U should scan and post your alighnment sheet, or post the specs.

                      From tearing appart countless E30's and putting a few back together again, it sounds like you have bent suspension components.

                      lowering springs will do little change to the static camber on the front of an E30.

                      with that said, i have a set of IE add on camber plates that i'll sell you if your interested
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Eric View Post

                        From tearing apart countless E30's and putting a few back together again, it sounds like you have bent suspension components.
                        Thats gotta be my problem. One of my rear tires has noticeable more neg camber than the other. So where do I start looking for damage??

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by wannaBMthree View Post
                          Thats gotta be my problem. One of my rear tires has noticeable more neg camber than the other. So where do I start looking for damage??
                          look at your rear trailing arms and see if theyre bent.
                          could also be down to your subframe/rear trailing arm bushings being worn, if they havent been changed id start with them.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Eric View Post
                            lowering springs will do little change to the static camber on the front of an E30.

                            with that said, i have a set of IE add on camber plates that i'll sell you if your interested
                            I keep hearing that, about the "little camber change" and then I look at the difference between my car and the wifes car...there is a BUNCH of camber to the naked eye...dunno how that works on a rack, but it sure looks like a bunch.

                            The plates I have read about that allow adding some positive (correcting negative?) seem to say they will take out .5 degree of negative.

                            That does not sound like much.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by kev.skyline View Post
                              look at your rear trailing arms and see if theyre bent.
                              could also be down to your subframe/rear trailing arm bushings being worn, if they havent been changed id start with them.
                              That's what I'm hoping mine is. The rear passenger side wheel has noticeably more camber than the driver side, even to the naked eye.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post
                                I keep hearing that, about the "little camber change" and then I look at the difference between my car and the wifes car...there is a BUNCH of camber to the naked eye...dunno how that works on a rack, but it sure looks like a bunch.

                                The plates I have read about that allow adding some positive (correcting negative?) seem to say they will take out .5 degree of negative.

                                That does not sound like much.
                                i read the same, those ones u just reverse for "positive" camber only give u .5 degree of positive which IMO im still gonna have my same problem. Im tyring to find fully adjustable ones that give me less negetive camber then right now, does anybody ahve the I.E. track camber plates on their car? If so can u get less negetive camber then stock with those? Im gonna call I.E. and find out right now.

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