Calling all R3v members. Please read this!

[JasonC]

I'll look at this tomorrow, and give my imput on it then.

[robspeed325i]

i just want to say that i have seen so much retarded shit on this forum, the best advice is "buyer beware" as far as technical information goes. it seems that people like to just offer their opinions about something as if they knew what they are talking about, instead of just keeping their mouth shut and learning. i cant say tech is any better because im new to the e30 world and have just been on here mostly.

that having been said, ***ANY*** feedback system would be an improvement, but what do you get when unqualified idiots are giving feedback on stuff they don't have the first clue about?

[Holland]

agree

[JasonC]

1-Seller rating based on frequency of selling
2-Seller rating based on shipping time, quality of product, quality of description (was description accurate), and communication between seller & buyer
3-Maturity rating (i.e., mature/immature, polite/rude, etc.)
4-Post content relevance rating (usefulness, helpfulness, etc.)
5-Post-by-post feedback based on feedback from multiple users
6-Post feedback accounts for negative bias (because people have a tendency to give more negative feedback than positive)
7-User CP control on how your reputation is displayed
8-Reputation to be decided by moderator
9-Gas tank display; other members can give or take gas away, and you need gas in order to post.
10-Incentive to do good by restricting posting activity
11-Reputation system restricted to buying/selling and/or non-OT subforums.
12-Reputation system does not restrict opinions and ideas
13-Rank system based on typical posting behavior (e.g., "E30 tech" if most posts are in Tech forums; "Space cadet" if most are in Off-topic)

1-Sounds good, but there are some people on here like me. That only sells stuff once and a blue moon

2-I like the idea

3-3/4 of the board would have - marks :giggle:

4-On the fence about that. Most threads never stay on topic for long on here anyway.

5-Sounds like alot of feedback for so little of a deal.

6-Sounds good i guess

7-Sould be one way so everyone could see it.

8-Sounds fine, but it would be alot of work each day going through everyones rep to update it.

9- Read #3

10-Thats what "time outs" are for.

11-Sounds good

12-Sounds good also, seeing that there is alot of opinions on here

13-I do not like one bit.

[Charlie]

-Seller rating based on frequency of selling
-Seller rating based on shipping time, quality of product, quality of description (was description accurate), and communication between seller & buyer
-Maturity rating (i.e., mature/immature, polite/rude, etc.)
-Post content relevance rating (usefulness, helpfulness, etc.)
-Post-by-post feedback based on feedback from multiple users
-Post feedback accounts for negative bias (because people have a tendency to give more negative feedback than positive)
-User CP control on how your reputation is displayed
-Reputation to be decided by moderator
-Gas tank display; other members can give or take gas away, and you need gas in order to post.
-Incentive to do good by restricting posting activity
-Reputation system restricted to buying/selling and/or non-OT subforums.
-Reputation system does not restrict opinions and ideas
-Rank system based on typical posting behavior (e.g., "E30 tech" if most posts are in Tech forums; "Space cadet" if most are in Off-topic)

1.) I don't understand the point or reason of this one. Someone that constantly sells little parts is better than someone that only occasionally sells?

2.) Good, I guess, but redundant on here.

3.) Dumb idea. Most people can read posts and get a pretty quick feel.

4.) Dumb.

5.) A shitload of work, and overall a waste of time. Way too easy to abuse.

6.) Again, way too much work/overhead for such a trivial feature. Dumb idea.

7, 8, 9.) I hate boards that use this system. It turns into a big incestual group with a bunch of infighting and post-count wars. Really bad idea.

10.) If a person is a douche, they get banned. Simple. No need for this idea.

11, 12.) The only way a "ranking" system would be useful at all would be on a buyer/seller level. Any other subforum would become useless.

13.) Dumb.

I can't come up with 5. The only thing I can see in that group would be ratings based on buyer/seller transactions, and that's pretty much already in play.

-Charlie

[elguapo84]

Thanks for the input so far guys. Deutschman, thank you for PMing me your prioritized list. For the rest of you who have not yet gotten around to doing this, please PM me rather than posting in the thread.

Remember, just choose your favorite five from the list, rank order them according to importance, and write a note why each is important.

Again, our deadline is 7 PM tomorrow (Sunday).

Thanks again!

[elguapo84]

Only one person has sent me their prioritized list...come on guys, we need your input. We're extending this 2 more days. Please PM me your lists.

[Nicademus]

1) That is idiotic. Who cares how often some makes sales? I just want to know that they're trustworthy, not if they're the number one Kirby vacuum salesman like Dog the Bounty Hunter.
2) Seller rating could be similar to eBays current more detailed approach
3) Nay
4) Indifferent
5) Nay
6) Nay
7) NO
8} I hate
9) Hate more. I don't need gas to post. F off. You'll drive people away from the forum. Rep ruins forums. People just sit in threads and rep each other. If you go to the forum I used to frequent (my.is) then you'll see the rep circle jerks that go down. Its pathetic.
10) Time outs like said above
11) This is the only rep I want. For buying/selling purposes. The iTrader rating system for example where you link the FS thread to the rating.
12) Nothing should be restricted
13) I don't really care what it says.

[StereoInstaller1]

As a long term/well respected member, I will voice my opinion on the entire subject clearly: I am 100% opposed to a visible rating system of ANY kind.

The #1 reason is that the current system requires people to get involved. This is a community, and I feel community is only established by communication...and since 99.99% of the board will only ever communicate via the forum, being involved is the only chance there is to develop an understanding of each other.

Reid, I think you have a great class project. I hope all goes well in your socail experiment...but I am vehemently against any form of "ranking" for R3V.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unless it is a stereo, then fix the damn thing until you are happy or broke or both...

Luke

[robspeed325i]

I think a rating system could work, but having thought about it a few days, it should be weighted to reflect one's own rating. In other words, if someone is rated low by others, their opinion of others shouldn't matter much. On the other hand, if someone is known as a superguru with major knowledge and experience, their opinions should matter more.

A weighting system like this may or may not have ever been done before, and might add a neat extra element to your project...

[elguapo84]

As a long term/well respected member, I will voice my opinion on the entire subject clearly: I am 100% opposed to a visible rating system of ANY kind.

The #1 reason is that the current system requires people to get involved. This is a community, and I feel community is only established by communication...and since 99.99% of the board will only ever communicate via the forum, being involved is the only chance there is to develop an understanding of each other.

Reid, I think you have a great class project. I hope all goes well in your socail experiment...but I am vehemently against any form of "ranking" for R3V.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unless it is a stereo, then fix the damn thing until you are happy or broke or both...

Luke

To all the folks who are thinking we want to come in and redesign R3v, I need to clear some things up here...

This is a class project. The topic of the project was a User-Centered redesign of a reputation system for a website of our choosing. We would have done something else, but we were required to do a rep system.

We're not here to change R3v. We're not going to change r3v. We just need to get some user input so we can design something, turn it in, get a grade, and move on to the next class.

At this point, I don't see the wants & needs analysis going any further; We'll post a survey up later today to get some quantitative data from you folks.

Stay tuned.

[Kruzen]

You might want to say we're not changing r3v in the first post

[elguapo84]

You might want to say we're not changing r3v in the first post

I agree...it's our first time doing this, so it's definitely been a learning experience. Nevertheless, all your input thus far has been greatly appreciated!

On another note, the survey is hosted. Please check the thread for instructions. Thanks guys!

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?p=1380682#post1380682

[h0lmes]

A seller/buyer reputation system wouldn't be a bad idea in order to protect members from other fraudulent sellers/buyers. A broader system, however, that concerns just general posting activity outside of seller/buyer transactions would be a very bad idea for r3v. It will undoubtedly be abused and become very inaccurate.