Oil in throttle/intake and air box?

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  • lowbrow1
    Advanced Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 121

    #1

    Oil in throttle/intake and air box?

    Hoping someone can give me a little insite on this problem I am having. The motor is a m20b23. One day it just didnt turn over. Found oil in the intake/throttle and in the air cleaner. Also once I did get it started it ran very rough and purged alot of dirty oil(not sure exactly from where) and tons of white smoke. This made no sense to me because the oil has been changed and is clear on the dipstick. There is no oil / coolant mix. Can the oil sump be clogged or blocked?
  • guibo09
    E30 Modder
    • Dec 2008
    • 834

    #2
    have the same problem, but not as severe, the filter has oil stains.
    90 E30 325i

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    • slo325i
      E30 Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 417

      #3
      I think if your oil sump was to be blocked, the engine wouldn't run after a period of rod-knocking noises and lifter ticks and everything due to no oil in the motor. Maybe the engine's due for a piston ring job? Cuz obviously it's spitting oil back into your TB and intake.


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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        check the o-rings on the drain tube between the block and the intake manifold. if there's a vacuum leak there, that can happen.
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        • guibo09
          E30 Modder
          • Dec 2008
          • 834

          #5
          Originally posted by nando
          check the o-rings on the drain tube between the block and the intake manifold. if there's a vacuum leak there, that can happen.
          are you talking about that spring loaded tube that goes straight down from inbetween cylinder 3 & 4 intake manifold ports into the engine block?
          90 E30 325i

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            Originally posted by guibo09
            are you talking about that spring loaded tube that goes straight down from inbetween cylinder 3 & 4 intake manifold ports into the engine block?
            yes
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            • Jand3rson
              Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 37587

              #7
              Also known as the Spring Loaded Tube 'O Death.

              Take off your intake manifold, and try to pull that thing out. You'll find out why.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                it's not that hard, all you really need are some zip ties.
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                • Jand3rson
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 37587

                  #9
                  I know, I'm talking about when it does let go.

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                  • PhillyG
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 754

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Janderson
                    Also known as the Spring Loaded Tube 'O Death.

                    Take off your intake manifold, and try to pull that thing out. You'll find out why.
                    hahaha I never knew it was known as that. That thing really is dangerous.

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                    • guibo09
                      E30 Modder
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 834

                      #11
                      okay... i took off my head, and it just kinda flopped over. no springing of death action. does that mean that it's broken? the spring does look rusted to shits.
                      90 E30 325i

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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34827

                        #12
                        the spring is probably dead
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                        • guibo09
                          E30 Modder
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 834

                          #13
                          Originally posted by nando
                          the spring is probably dead
                          which explains the oil in my intake and filter.

                          would this also explain the excessive oil consumption ive been having? i just ripped my head off cuz i thought it was due to worn valve guides...
                          90 E30 325i

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            it could, my car was smoking like crazy and my air filter was soaked with oil. I drove probably 100 miles before I figured out my tube wasn't inserted properly into the hole and the lubrication was being sucked into the intake somehow.

                            it went away as soon as I snapped it into the correct place.
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                            • shiboujin
                              R3VLimited
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2791

                              #15
                              That tube doesn't connect to the intake in the least. You should be able to take that tube out, run the car and not see a drop of oil in your intake. Granted there will be oil all over the place under there.

                              What is probably happening is that your rings are dying or the bad tube caused the crank case to receive neutral pressure (not in vacuum like it should be) and frothed some oil into the vent tube that goes from the valve cover to the intake.

                              Basically, oily vapor is seeping into your intake via the crank case vent tube from the VC due to either bad sealing of the crank case or dying rings/valves.

                              Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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