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    TArse’s road to drifting. 87 325is build thread

    I’m starting this today and I am going to try to keep this updated as I drive and work on the car. I’m also going to reserve a bunch of the replies for the thread and for future updates. I just like threads where to information isn’t spread through the thread. Ive had this car since April 2011 so I’ll start this thread with a little history of the car since I’ve had it and begin the “build” and repairs posting from when I actually started modifying the car. So I bought my 1987 325is in April of 2011, healthy motor with a healthy automatic transmission. Here’s a pic from the day I bought it. Car was stock aside from e36 m3 mirrors, lowering springs and a radio. This car was never my daily but I drove it often. Plans were huge when I bought the car but they all continued to take a back seat to everything else for YEARS. At one point I bought a cheap running e36 so I could m50 swap my e30. I ended up selling the e36 a couple months later. After that I just wanted it to be a 5 speed, so I bought a 5 speed swap that I never put in and sold it about a few months later for what I paid. Then I wanted to 5.0 swap it, and it never happened. This all happened within the first year or so of ownership. I can’t pinpoint exactly when but sometime In 2014 I just kind of stopped driving it. I don’t even know why, thinking back there wasn’t really a reason, I think I just enjoyed driving my e46 more. Maybe it was because it was an auto, I don’t know and it really doesn’t matter much. BUT in 2014 I did try to sell the car for about a month. I had 3 people come look at it and test drive it. All 3 times the car had issues which were all funny to me especially since I had never had issues with the car before I tried to sell it. 1 - I met someone at night (buddy I used to hang with) and the headlights were cutting in and out. 2 - second guy none of the automatic windows would work in the car. 3 - third car just refused to start, like literally nothing. The car had a push to start button installed by the PO so I popped it and jumped the wires. Needless to say no one wanted it and I took it as a sign that I should keep it forever. So after trying to sell it and then deciding to keep the car I just parked it in my garage in 2014. So at this point I know I’m keeping the car and I want to revitalize my love for it. I decided that I was going to m50 swap it along with a manual trans. The intention was to make a car I could drift and enjoy driving. This is when I got serious about my plans for the car but since I was going to have the car forever I took my time with it. In 2015 I bought another running, clapped out, e36 for like $600 with an m50b25nv. I drove it home and parked it. In 2016 we decided to sell our house and buy another that was a bit bigger. One we could stay in for a long time and start a family. When we moved was the first time I had driven the e30 in almost 2 years. Our new house had an amazing shop and I parked and covered my e30 in the back where it was destined to stay parked for a couple more years. Here’s a picture of the shop, I even put a 2 post in it after about a year! After getting the house and shop situated it was time to start the swap process. I started to part the e36 with the intention of starting my swap very soon. I started the part out process in December of 2016. Looking back at pictures and remembering the timeline now it’s kinda funny. I posted in December 2016 “should be pulling the motor next week”. Man, who knew next week was actually 6 months later lol In September 2017 We found out we were going to be having a kid! Man we were so excited and once again, the project takes a back seat. To be continued…
    Last edited by TArse; 08-15-2021, 06:15 AM.

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    We welcomed our daughter into the world in February of 2018. Life was a whirlwind for about 6 months after that. Then we talked about having another child. After some talking we agreed we would try when my swap was done since I’d been putting it off for a couple years. So now it’s finally time and I started ordering the parts I needed in September 2018. I orders multiple gaskets, water pump, t stat (and housing), nearly every bushing and mount, headers and other things needed for the swap. It was looking like I was actually going to get this swap done. In October 2018 our 8 month old daughter seizures. This was hands down the scariest week of my life. She was having hundreds of seizures a day. Everything changed for me and my wife that day and subsequent weeks. Nothing else mattered, we found out what kind of seizures she was having and the outlook was not a good one. Very very rarely did children come out “okay”. most children that had those kinds of seizures never crawled, walked or talked. Best case our daughter was going to come out with learning disabilities and overall delays in every category. We just wanted her to be okay. Everything we did for the next 6 months was for her. . I’m not going to say much more of her story here but I will say is was emotionally, physically and financially devastating to us. By March 2019 my daughters seizures we mostly under control, down from hundreds a day to make 50, mostly when she woke up from sleeping. But now another thing bubbles to the surface. I evaluated of financial situation and came to the conclusion that if we didn’t sell the house we were in we would be kicked out by the end of 2019. We decided to sell the house and my wife mentioned what I would do with the e30. I had 3 options. Swap it and keep it. Sell everything. Sell the swap stuff and keep the e30. My wife said I should swap it and keep it and she said she would let me spend time getting it done since I had almost all the parts to get it done already and it wouldn’t cost much more (ended up being about $300 more to get the rest I needed). So I began. I would work on the e30 about 1 hour a night and some weekends would be all day. Let it be known that I was mechanically inclined but the biggest job I’d ever done on a car was install coil overs on my e46. This forum helped me immensely with old threads on the swap. I started on April 1 2019. First day I changed the water pump, t stat, VCG, installed headers and cleaned the m50z April 17 2019 we pulled the e30 motor and trans April 20 2019 m50 fitted and bolted in Almost everything fitted by may 20 2019 I had my first start may 24 2019 and wrapped up the swap on June 9 2019. Here’s a pic of me and my daughter the day I wrapped it up I was proud that I was able to get this swap done in a little over 2 months but now it was time to put the car back on the back burner and get back to life. We listed our house for sale about a week after I finished the swap and we moved out on July 3. While we were cleaning out the house and shop I sold all my spare parts for my e30 and finished parting the e36. I also bought some coil overs for pretty cheap to install later with some of the money I had made. I do miss the shop but selling was the best decision we have made. Our new house will be paid off soon and my wife only works 1 day a week. The main goal of the move was to have a place to live that we could afford if only I was working in the case that our daughters health took a downturn. Around this time our daughters seizures nearly stopped! Maybe 1-2 a day. I’m December 2019 she had her last seizure that we have seen to date (current date as of this post august 2021). She was learning and devolving great too! In august 2019 I found time and installed the coils This is how the car was for awhile. In the mean time I was just installing parts I had on the car, like LCAB and other maintenance stuff I needed to do that I already had the parts for. Here’s a shift knob I made So at this point in the story my e30 is ready to go to it’s first event, my daughter is doing amazing, and we are saving money for the first time in almost a year. I hold off on all things e30 to build our bank up. In March 2020 I bought some new wheels and signed up for my first drift event that was to take place in April 2020 (lol). To be continued…
    Last edited by TArse; 08-15-2021, 07:40 AM.

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      #3
      WELP, corona virus shut down the country and the April 2020 drift event was cancelled. I went to the next event they had which was in July 2020. I had no drifting experience before other than doing donuts a couple times in parking lots. I’d never even done a standing burnout. It was an absolute blast but I did leave a little discouraged. I spun about half the time and only linked about 3 turns all day. I did spend some time in the practice pit and learned how to do actual donuts around a barrel and failed at figure 8s. At the end of the day an instructor worked with me on left foot braking doing donuts around the barrel. I got the super tight and controlled. Looking back it wasn’t as bad, I guess I just had the idea of being a ripper my first time out lol. After this event I started selling A lot of my stuff to make room for a new baby in august. I made a little over $3000 from selling my drums and vintage video game collection. Since we were 100% back on track financially my wife let me do whatever with the cash. I saved about half of it and with the other half I bought an SLR ultra kit. I already bought some KAmotors flares and installed the fronts too. Here’s the kit installed, man, what a difference Next event was in October 2020. The SLR kit helped a ton and everything clicked for me during the second session and I was linking the entire track ALL DAY. Pic from second event Here’s a cell phone video from that day too https://youtu.be/NCRLBaVEap8 At the second event I was killing my tires due to bad alignment in the rear. I bought some serrated alignment tabs and put them on the rear subframe along with all solid bushings and diff mount. I took some time off because we had another daughter in august and my oldest was going to attend a special 3 month program starting in December 2020. This made money tight again. Fast forward to may 2021 and I went to my 3rd event. Car now has all solid bushings and mounts (purchased all the way back in 2018) and dialed in alignment. The car absolutely RIPPED ALL DAY LONG. Here’s another cell video from the event https://youtu.be/jPZjvr20Siw At this event one of my clutch cylinders started to go leaving me with an unpredictable clutch. I worked through it and it wasn’t much of an issue but now it’s time for me to install my master and slave I’ve had in a box for 3 years. I developed a fuel leak somewhere on the filler neck. I blew bout my exhaust manifold gasket and all my passengers said that the floor board was super hot, which it was. So as of right now I have replaced all my exhaust manifold studs, got a MLS exhaust manifold gasket and my buddy got stuff to start vapor honing and ceramic coating. He is coating my headers for cheap so they will stop cooking the passenger floor board and keep my engine bay temps down. When I get my exhaust back on I’ll be fixing my cylinders and hopefully finding and fixing the fuel leak. I hope to be back on the track in November 2021! Got my headers back and had him do a strut bar I ordered back in may Got them put on this afternoon and tomorrow I’ll be tackling the master/slave, fuel leak, rest of the exhaust, bolt check and changing the diff fluid No pics today because I was busy wrenching but on the way to work on my car the slave totally failed and I drove it about 10 miles with no Clutch. So today I replaced the slave, bled the system m, got all the exhaust back on and found the fuel leak. The fuel leak was coming from a small tank (called fuel expansion tank) near the filler neck. I found about a 5” long crack, cleaned it and jb welded it up. Hopefully it holds well. As of right now my car is ready for the November event. I’ll post up after. 11/6/21. I’m getting super stoked on this three day event coming up. Got the car dialed and ready to go! Fresh transmission, diff fluid and a big ass stack of tires. I’ll be back with an update after the event!
      Last edited by TArse; 11-06-2021, 05:18 PM.

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        Update - 4/28/22
        Well I’m about 6 months late on the update from my November 2021 event.
        The event was an absolute blast! I pulled 172 laps in 3 days on 1.5 sets of tires. They also moved me up into the next driver group so I could try out tandeming. It really felt like I was driving non stop. In this event I started using the handbrake for the first time ever and I got my first tandems in!!! I even led a train of 20+ cars at night (first time drifting under some lights) shit was nerve wracking but super sick at the same time. All that driving and the car was perfect, awesome tire life and no mechanical issues at all. Car ripped all weekend!

        Got a bunch of sick pictures from this event too!

        Vibe check

















        My buddy let me rip his better for a few laps too. Thing is nuts. I’m a little jealous.




        Great event, no issues at all.

        I went to my next event in February 2022.
        Before this event I put in a proper dual caliper setup and that was it. Car was super solid.

        I don’t have many pictures from this event but it went really well. Got some more tandems in (no good pictures though), third gear entries and really started to figure out how to use the handbrake. This event was a hot lap event and at one point I thought I cooked my motor. Came off track and had some nasty valve train noise, I popped the hood, and let the car run for awhile to cycle some heat out, the noise stopped and I continued to beat on the car the rest of the day without issue.

        Couple pics from the event









        I’m the meantime the track got bought out and the new owners want to do their own events. This ended with them barring the organizer that throws the events I’ve been going to. It sucks but it is what it is.

        The silver lining is that the the organizer is going to start throwing events 45 min from my house. Way better than the 2.5 hour drive to the track. The “new” venue paved a fairly decent skidpad for us to drift on with plans to construct an actual drift track. Planning to break ground in it this summer. I’m super stoked we have found a new home and I will more than likely be attending more events!

        Next one I’m going to is in 2 Days. Being so close I’m going to street the e30 to the track (pray for me lol). I’m preparation all I’ve done is put my roof basket back on so I can carry my fuel can and more tires! Update hopefully coming sooner than 6 months later haha.
        Last edited by TArse; 04-28-2022, 05:42 PM.

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                  Dude, my heart sunk reading about your daughter. I have a 6 month old girl now and that would absolute gut me. I am so happy to hear she is doing better.

                  The car seems to be in a good place. Not sure how bad the IS cowcatcher is but you might as well sell it before it gets destroyed completely as they are nearly impossible to find and you can get yourself a fiberglass bumper of some type
                  Simon
                  Current Cars:
                  -1966 Lotus Elan
                  -1986 Mercedes Benz 2.3-16
                  -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                  Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                    This is incredibly touching, I can’t imagine what youve gone through. I’m glad to hear your daughter has gotten better and that y’all are back on your feet, thanks for sharing! Stoked to see this car has stayed with you through it all.

                    Beyond reliability I’m sure, any plans with the M50?

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                      Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
                      Dude, my heart sunk reading about your daughter. I have a 6 month old girl now and that would absolute gut me. I am so happy to hear she is doing better. The car seems to be in a good place. Not sure how bad the IS cowcatcher is but you might as well sell it before it gets destroyed completely as they are nearly impossible to find and you can get yourself a fiberglass bumper of some type
                      I didn’t go too deep into her story because there is so much but everything made me and my wife different people. Our entire outlook on life changes for the better. It’s kind of wild looking back and thinking about stuff we used to worry about. A few months ago we saw our younger daughter do some suspicious things that looked like seizure activity and me and my wife just shut down. Friday night, specialist offices closed and had to endure the weekend with our minds going 100mph. Our older daughters neurologist saw her Monday morning and said everything was fine. And he was right. After that weekend my wife and I are certain we have PTSD from everything we went through with our oldest. Man, that IS valence is about shot lol. In my first couple years of ownership I think i ran it over 3 times:/ armadillos are no joke. All the brackets are long gone and also NLA. Some I’m using BMWs new bracket part, AKA real fat zip ties lol. The valence is also cracked a lot on the bottom and zip stitched together. I think I’ll probably keep it as long as I can because I’m actually one of the few that likes the diving boards and the IS valence looks best IMO

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                        Originally posted by zwill23 View Post
                        This is incredibly touching, I can’t imagine what youve gone through. I’m glad to hear your daughter has gotten better and that y’all are back on your feet, thanks for sharing! Stoked to see this car has stayed with you through it all. Beyond reliability I’m sure, any plans with the M50?
                        Thanks man. She’s been a handful but she has made us into way better people and we love her so much. I’m glad the car has stayed too, like I said when I tried to sell it and it kept giving me issues while I was showing it I knew I just had to keep it forever. So long term plans for the car. 1. Keep it forever - this means keeping it in one piece. I plan on getting an e36 to beat on sooner than later to try to keep me from destroying this car. Eventually making my e30 a really nice drift car that I will drive more when I know I won’t be in walls and stuff. Until then it’s my job to keep it conservative and not run doors and walls when the time comes. 2. Boost. Power goal around 300whp-400whp. Keep it low and reliable. I swapped an m50b25nv in with the intention of boosting it eventually. This is going to hAppen when I kill this motor, resulting in a full rebuild. Or when I get that e36, get it right and I’ll start the build on the e30 motor. In the meantime there isn’t much more that I want to do to the e30 other than eventually boost it. What’s done to it so far. - all solid bushings - angle - coils - rear alignment adjusters - some reinforcements on the rear - seats - quick release (so I can get in and out Stuff I want to do sooner than later - oil cooler - dual caliper setup (when I’m ready, still haven’t used the handbrake and I don’t think I’m at the point to “need” one yet) - MAYBE a center vent if the oil cooler isn’t keeping hot lap temps under control - cage I’m really hoping my daughter stays wild because I think she will LOVE riding in it at the track. My wife actually thinks so too, and she is not into cars at all and doesn’t even want to ride with me lol. My daughter has NO FEAR. We rented like a 18’ tall blow up water slide last months and my daughter, who is 3 now, just climbed up and ran into the slide with no hesitation all day haha. I even rode her around the front yard in the e30 and she was just dying laughing.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by TArse View Post
                          ...my wife and I are certain we have PTSD from everything we went through with our oldest. Man, that IS valence is about shot lol. In my first couple years of ownership I think i ran it over 3 times:/ armadillos are no joke. All the brackets are long gone and also NLA.
                          The PTSD thing is for real, please take care of your mental. I’m so glad it seems to be mostly behind you.

                          As far as the IS valence brackets someone here was remaking them, a 3D printed version that seemed to be good reproduction pieces, but if it’s hammered and a drift car, ...send it!
                          Simon
                          Current Cars:
                          -1966 Lotus Elan
                          -1986 Mercedes Benz 2.3-16
                          -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                          Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                            Small update. There won’t be another until after the November event, I’m hoping to be shredding tires Friday Saturday and Sunday!

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                              #15
                              Finally an update, ya boy was only 6 months later than expected

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