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  • pilotskillse30
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    Nice!

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  • 8380 Labs
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    i really like this whole car/project, very cool.

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  • JTDay
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    Awesome! Subscribed.

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  • Jb325is
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    550/750 Ground Controls

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  • dsobering47
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    thats hot. what suspension setup are you running?

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  • Jb325is
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    Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
    M10, M30, S14 and S38 share the same 100mm bore spacing. Great for swapping parts. Keep in mind that the M30 is a low end torque motor, unless you start swapping cam (like the Hartge motors, per exemple). The ITBs now have a much shorter intake path than the original manifold. Great for high revs, but very detrimental to the low end torque. Keep in mind the Helmholtz resonance effect. The shorter valve-to-butterfly distance will raise the resonance frequency (RPM). You can help fill the intake with much longer airhorns. Trying adapting the S14 trumpets...
    Yeah I've looked into resonance tuning a bit.. I know that I have a lot of work to do determining proper length for the air horns. I've found a few companies that make them and the dimensions for the throttle bodies seem to be pretty standard so there are lots of options. This engine is 10.5:1 with a 290 cam, it's already pretty peaky as far as m30's go

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  • Massive Lee
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    M10, M30, S14 and S38 share the same 100mm bore spacing. Great for swapping parts. Keep in mind that the M30 is a low end torque motor, unless you start swapping cam (like the Hartge motors, per exemple). The ITBs now have a much shorter intake path than the original manifold. Great for high revs, but very detrimental to the low end torque. Keep in mind the Helmholtz resonance effect. The shorter valve-to-butterfly distance will raise the resonance frequency (RPM). You can help fill the intake with much longer airhorns. Trying adapting the S14 trumpets...
    Last edited by Massive Lee; 12-12-2010, 01:47 PM.

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  • e30m3s54turbo
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    Nice! I seen those on a e9 at a bmw shop. They to have to mod. the thermostat an run ms.

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  • dannyyisntt
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    Subscribed. I like this idea and want to see where this goes...

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  • Jb325is
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    Yep, sure are. That's mainly what I'm after. I just had these throttle bodies laying around and stumbled upon the adapters, so I figured I'd see what happens

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  • Good & Tight
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    Originally posted by Jb325is View Post
    Yeah I've read up on it a bit, I was thinking about changing to alpha numeric, but I guess you're talking about blended alpha N/speed density? The adapter is pretty nice, cost me $150 which I thought was pretty reasonable
    Mine was blended tps/map on boost though. Your na so alpha N should do the trick.
    Once you get it dialed in throttle response is going to be so crisp. These are going on the big bore you put together right?

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  • Jb325is
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight View Post
    That adapter looks top notch! That engine is going to rev so much faster.
    Not sure if you read up on MS w/itb's but you should make a vacuum canister to connect all of them to get a clean MAP signal. Had to do this on my M10 w/itb's.
    Yeah I've read up on it a bit, I was thinking about changing to alpha numeric, but I guess you're talking about blended alpha N/speed density? The adapter is pretty nice, cost me $150 which I thought was pretty reasonable

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  • Good & Tight
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    That adapter looks top notch! That engine is going to rev so much faster.
    Not sure if you read up on MS w/itb's but you should make a vacuum canister to connect all of them to get a clean MAP signal. Had to do this on my M10 w/itb's.

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  • Jb325is
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    Yep, I think they're off an e28 but I'm not 100% positive..

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  • kronus
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    S38 ITBs?

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