strokin' it. M20B31 build (finished!)

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  • Jesse30
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2007
    • 3936

    #16
    Originally posted by E30 F34R
    DO NOT get a IE regrind, just saying because they are cheaper. Schrick all the way, double the price but worth every penny. And you are going to have to buy upgraded valve springs to get over 7k with the cam. Or just don't race it. On my brother's stroker build I am replacing the rockers with the beefy race ones to handle the higher RPMs. If you get the Schrick cam buy a IE cam adjuster gear. Only 100 bucks and helps dial in the cam =)
    whats wrong with IE's regrinds? have you had anything happen?

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    • brutus87
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2010
      • 6280

      #17
      WAAAAAAY off topic, but nice wheels!
      Are those euroweaves?
      I have some euroweaves on mine that I want to refinish, and these look AMAZING.
      Is that nogaro silver for the center?
      sigpic

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      • Raxe
        R3V Elite
        • Nov 2006
        • 5346

        #18
        Originally posted by brutus87
        WAAAAAAY off topic, but nice wheels!
        Are those euroweaves?
        I have some euroweaves on mine that I want to refinish, and these look AMAZING.
        Is that nogaro silver for the center?
        It is indeed, and a perfect match for Lachsilber.

        >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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        • Jean
          Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 18228

          #19
          Very clean! Nice job! What lens was used for the last photo?
          Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



          OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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          • Wh33lhop
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2009
            • 11705

            #20
            The 272 is a good choice if you want a mild cam without any headaches. You can run up to a 284 without getting springs etc, but you have to be a little careful (see towards end of post).

            Originally posted by E30 F34R
            FYI a real stroker it larger bore(bigger pistons) with shorter rods or bigger crankshaft. Since you already had the SETA it is just an improved topend. It is still a great build and motor!
            Eh, people keep on complaining about this pedantry--who cares. It's a 2.7i. :p

            DO NOT get a IE regrind
            Agreed.

            And you are going to have to buy upgraded valve springs to get over 7k with the cam.
            As I recall there is not much of a reason to go beyond 7 grand with the 284. Stock "i" springs are okay until you step it up to a 288.

            Or just don't race it. On my brother's stroker build I am replacing the rockers with the beefy race ones to handle the higher RPMs. If you get the Schrick cam buy a IE cam adjuster gear. Only 100 bucks and helps dial in the cam =)
            The main reason to get a cam gear with the 284 IMO would be to have the ability to clearance the valves. It has been awhile so I don't remember exactly which configuration this happened in (2.7i or stock b25) but the pistons just barely graze the valves with the 284 installed with stock phasing. So, you will want to retard cam timing just a bit until there is sufficient valve clearance.
            paint sucks

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            • spencers
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jan 2004
              • 1150

              #21
              Perfection.

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              • sandlock
                E30 Modder
                • Feb 2009
                • 946

                #22
                nice work. if all motor swaps only involved the top end, cursing in garages around the world would drop by 30-45%.
                ReverseOTL.
                NewParts4sale.
                PartsWanted.

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                • leegf
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1168

                  #23
                  is there anyone else on here with two super nice E30s i wonder?

                  E46t

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                  • 619E30
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1753

                    #24
                    I might be doing this, this summer. Except, I'll be swapping bottom ends. lol
                    Originally posted by audiquattrot
                    bimmers b4 b*tches....remember that.
                    1990 Alpinweiss 325i - secret 500whp build
                    2000 Audi S4 B5 Laser Red
                    1990 Nissan 240sx - Drift Missile
                    2006 CBR600RR

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                    • Raxe
                      R3V Elite
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5346

                      #25
                      Thanks guys :)

                      Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                      The 272 is a good choice if you want a mild cam without any headaches. You can run up to a 284 without getting springs etc, but you have to be a little careful (see towards end of post).
                      Sounds like the 272 is my winner then. Thanks for the info!

                      First problem has sprung up since the conversion. I was taking a couple pictures tonight and while I was moving the car around setting up shots I noticed it would really bog down for several seconds after firing it up. The problem only shows up when the car has been running for less than a minute between starts and would clear up shortly after, which leads me to believe it's a fuel issue. Pulled the vacuum hose off of the fuel pressure regulator and it was dry so I'm guessing it's a dirty/leaking injector. That's the problem with putting on a head from a less-than-ideal donor car; no idea what the history is like.

                      Anyways might as well post a pic:
                      Last edited by Raxe; 06-02-2011, 08:29 PM.

                      >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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                      • acolella76
                        R3VLimited
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2950

                        #26
                        i've always wondered how that antenna would look on a non m/touring.. i think you made up my mind. beautiful cars, man. And 272 is definitely the way to go if you don't want any headaches
                        -Alex

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                        • Raxe
                          R3V Elite
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5346

                          #27
                          The problem was a dirty injector I guess, ran some plain old Lucas injector cleaner and all symptoms disappeared.

                          Did a 3.73 lsd swap this last weekend, it's a worthwhile improvement over my 2.93 lsd. Made a few runs against a chipped '91 325i and beat it pretty good every time. :)

                          Last edited by Raxe; 06-14-2011, 07:49 PM.

                          >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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                          • 88SuperETABD
                            E30 Modder
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 911

                            #28
                            very nice man...you joined the club! I love your red e30. I'm gonna powdercoat my RX's white i think. But anyways, I have the IE 272 cam and it has worked flawlessly, no problems. dunno what they are talking about. I daily my car, you can hear the lumpiness of the cam still, but idles smoothly still. Has a good power band from about 3.5k-5.5k then it kinda falls off from there. I also have an adjustable cam gear i need to install as well. Also, according to my OBC. I still get about 22.5 mpg avg. I also did the 3.73 lsd swap.

                            What chip are you using? I had Dinan, was a piece of shit with the 2.7i, got a alpina b3 2.7 chip, its WAY BETTER! It idles at 1000 rpms tho. But with the dinan chip, i was getting only about 20 mpg.

                            I also plan on going from the stock injectors, to m50 injectors, (rebuilt/cleaned em, just gotta have time to put em in)

                            Whats the mileage on your car? I did this "stroker" at about 270k, and it was a nice refresh. I'm not at 286k. No problems what soever. Other than a couple speeding tickets/exhaust ticket lol. (With my cam + old exhaust, people asked me if there was a v8 under the hood)
                            (SOLD) 1988 327i Build Thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=155086
                            1970 Gruppe 2 2902 M20 Turbo Build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=373891

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                            • acolella76
                              R3VLimited
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2950

                              #29
                              Originally posted by 88SuperETABD
                              very nice man...you joined the club! I love your red e30. I'm gonna powdercoat my RX's white i think. But anyways, I have the IE 272 cam and it has worked flawlessly, no problems. dunno what they are talking about. I daily my car, you can hear the lumpiness of the cam still, but idles smoothly still. Has a good power band from about 3.5k-5.5k then it kinda falls off from there. I also have an adjustable cam gear i need to install as well.
                              regrinds from IE and new billet are totally different! I hear the regrinds are awful but the new billet ones aren't bad. In fact I have a new billet 272 as well from IE.
                              -Alex

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                              • Raxe
                                R3V Elite
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 5346

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 88SuperETABD
                                very nice man...you joined the club! I love your red e30. I'm gonna powdercoat my RX's white i think. But anyways, I have the IE 272 cam and it has worked flawlessly, no problems. dunno what they are talking about. I daily my car, you can hear the lumpiness of the cam still, but idles smoothly still. Has a good power band from about 3.5k-5.5k then it kinda falls off from there. I also have an adjustable cam gear i need to install as well. Also, according to my OBC. I still get about 22.5 mpg avg. I also did the 3.73 lsd swap.

                                What chip are you using? I had Dinan, was a piece of shit with the 2.7i, got a alpina b3 2.7 chip, its WAY BETTER! It idles at 1000 rpms tho. But with the dinan chip, i was getting only about 20 mpg.

                                I also plan on going from the stock injectors, to m50 injectors, (rebuilt/cleaned em, just gotta have time to put em in)

                                Whats the mileage on your car? I did this "stroker" at about 270k, and it was a nice refresh. I'm not at 286k. No problems what soever. Other than a couple speeding tickets/exhaust ticket lol. (With my cam + old exhaust, people asked me if there was a v8 under the hood)
                                Mine's not chipped right now, just a 173 from the i. I'm going to try the Dinan chip from my friends 325i anyways to see if it makes a difference but it's interesting to hear you had a bad experience with it. The car is at 180k miles, exhaust is a de-cat and new OEM muffler. It has a good rumble to it right now at idle, I'm excited to hear it with a 272!

                                >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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