BPG Rat Trap Video. m50 e30 m3. burnout contest.

[Digitalwave]

I like the yellow bumpers, it just needs more black and a little more red to go with the color scheme.

[BMW BMXER]

lol, sorry about that. Hope you can go on living :P

Its hard, man its hard. :)

[rwh11385]

Needs more yellow. A lot more yellow. I liked the look of the "The fastest piece of shit" in BMW CR, hahahahah. (R.I.P.)


Nah, BPG's scheme is cool looking and pretty. Are they any fast?

[Bavarian3]

"Weak..."

Yup... people just need more power to back up the lack of driver skill....

[Charlie]

Torque is much easier to drive with than revs.

Of course, I think 85% of BMW "drivers" would be happier with a mustang if they got over the whole badge-gasm thing.

-Charlie

[hamann318is]

It looks and sounds awesome. A little more flat black in there couldn't hurt.

[rwh11385]

Mike, the folks at BPG do BMW club race, so possibly they have more driver skill than you. Or maybe not, I dunno that for a fact. . .

But you are talking shit like this is a track car some n00b built so he could go fast. Nope, it's a race car built because I assume BPG is looking to win. So power = good, not a bandaid for lack of skill.

Yes, you are sad and upset it is "bastardized" or whatever, but ask this year's J-stock winner how much a S14 rebuild costs or how much fun that is. . .

Additionally "people just need more power" ???
Both a S14 2.3L E30 M3 and a M50 powered E30 M3 are in the J-prepared BMW club racing class, so they are in contention with each other on power/weight terms.



Charles, where is your AI car?

[Charlie]

As a "Pro" shop, do you really want to be associated with a "rat" racer?

Looks like a JS car with an M50 dumped in.

-Charlie

[Charlie]

Charles, where is your AI car?

Don't tempt me heeter.

-Charlie

[rwh11385]

Hey, that car was still $500 more than Jon's racecar, and $100 more than Akard's. . .

hell, the yellow POS had bailing wire holding the exhaust on, hahaha. But fuck it was fast.



we'll see if BPG can have the car's performance/speed do the talking . . .

[Bavarian3]

"Mike, the folks at BPG do BMW club race, so possibly they have more driver skill than you. Or maybe not, I dunno that for a fact. . .

But you are talking shit like this is a track car some n00b built so he could go fast. Nope, it's a race car built because I assume BPG is looking to win. So power = good, not a bandaid for lack of skill.

Yes, you are sad and upset it is "bastardized" or whatever, but ask this year's J-stock winner how much a S14 rebuild costs or how much fun that is. . .

Additionally "people just need more power" ???
Both a S14 2.3L E30 M3 and a M50 powered E30 M3 are in the J-prepared BMW club racing class, so they are in contention with each other on power/weight terms."



I wasn't saying that I have more skill over someone else... I was just saying it takes a lot more skill to drive fast in an underpowered car than an overpowered car... I don't talk shit... I rarely do... I was just stating what I think...

Which region J-stock winner do you want me to ask regarding rebuilding costs? The S14 that everyone thinks is a time bomb.... is not. Rebuilds CAN be costly but like anything else.. if you know how to put some stuff back together you can save money... but is it cheaper than a M50 motor rebuild wise? Of course not....

[rwh11385]

Who wants to handicap themselves in a RACE with a slower car?

Who wants to race an engine that likes to blow up?
(a number of local people have had to rebuild S14 a couple times, on the street or on the track) I don't trust them.

http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/stat...030_points.pdf

Simon was grandma driving, breaking in his freshly rebuilt motor when I talked to him at the Tech Inspection this year in March. And it did feel good in April around Putnam, and looked fast enough in June at the Bluegrass race. But I'd rather have a M50 still.

M3 roller. . . M50 cost: <1000 , S14 cost > 4000 . . . M50 may have the edge in JP, who knows? And less likely to blow up = win.

[Mtriple]

"Weak..."

Yup... people just need more power to back up the lack of driver skill....

spoken like a true purist... :roll:

Running out of supporting arguments, so now we are going to attack drivers skill?

Classy...

[rwh11385]

spoken like a true purist... :roll:

Running out of supporting arguments, so now we are going to attack drivers skill?

Classy...

+5


Hey, when I saw Tiede's car. . . I was like, "Why in the world would someone want to do that?" But now I definitely understand the thinking behind.


Oh well, there are a few people in the world of BMWs with the balls to put a _50 in the E30 m3 without a S in front of it and still call themselves a BMW ethusiant. . .

[Bavarian3]

"spoken like a true purist...

Running out of supporting arguments, so now we are going to attack drivers skill?

Classy..."

I said "people need more power to back up the lack of driving skill"...

Did I attack your skill? Jesus.... It is a general statement....

What supporting arguments should I come up with?

This is not only regarding a S14 motor or an E30 M3... I'd rather see a driver in a underpowered car drive the shit out of a car than one that can go really fast on the straights.... you guys are making the argument that my argument is a purist view...

The M50 motor is cheap, great and reliable... wonderful. Do I care? It's his car and he can do what he every want to do with it...

and by the way I was trying to be funny with Robert by saying he is a poo flinger...


"Oh well, there are a few people in the world of BMWs with the balls to put a _50 in the E30 m3 without a S in front of it and still call themselves a BMW ethusiant. . ."

Robert,

It doesn't take balls.... it takes money..... There is no skill in making a car fast... it takes money...

You guys are too much to handle......

Anyone else?

"(a number of local people have had to rebuild S14 a couple times, on the street or on the track) I don't trust them."

Well why did they rebuild them? Because of engine failure, driver failure, break in failure, mechanical failure? Details, I would like to know why or how a fresh engine would have to be rebuilt unless it was put back together incorrectly...