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    #46
    First off, DO NOT ROLL OVER AND LET THE INSURANCE TOTAL THE CAR! Find a good appraiser and have it appraised. There are enough E30 M3s out there in good shape to find a handful that are equally nice as your car. You can also find the going price for enough lesser cars to make the claim its worth greater than $25K, perhaps more than $30K.

    Yes the car is damaged, but it should be repairable and not get totaled. Sure, there is $15K+ worth of damage, but if the car looks as good as it does in person, you have solid ground to stand on. The insurance company will do their best to screw you, but with a good appraisal, you have a lot going for you. The price of an average E30 M3 these days is right around $20K, (The $15K rule is pretty much replaced with the $20K rule, but there are still deals to be found.) A car as nice as yours should appraise for well above $20K. Sure it will likely cost you about $300 out of pocket, but if it means keeping your car or not getting screwed by the insurance company, its well worth the effort. Likely what will happen is that the insurance company will "hire" an "Independent" appraiser (who gets kickbacks for lowball appraisals) and they will come out and low ball you. That is why I say get your own, hopefully someone who deals with such cars (try and find someone who works for one of the major auction houses such as RM, Goodings, Sothebys ect.) They will likely get the value right, or very close. You submit your findings to the insurance company and see what happens. You might have to go to arbitration where they will likely split the difference, but you never know.

    I played this game last year with my very rare '69 Alfa Romeo GTV (there were 640 built and less than 200 left) last year. PM me if you want more info on how to fight this. I honestly think you can save your car.

    Good luck,
    Will
    '59 Alfa Romeo 101.02 Giulietta Sprint
    '69 Alfa Romeo 105.51 1750 GTV (R.I.P)
    '69 Datsun 2000 roadster Vintage race car
    '88 BMW M3

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      #47
      Let us know what happens. I'm sure I'm speaking for everybody when I say that this things needs to be back on the road. We cannot let the M3s go out like this. Numbers are dwindling already, let alone the initial rarity of them already.

      I'm glad you are alright, cars can be replaced... Or fixed. =)

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        #48
        wow, first off thanks for all the support both in this thread and and pm's. solid community!

        i'm still a little unsure where all this is going to go. i know the pictures show it was a nice car, but this thing was a 'wolf in sheep's clothing'... there really isn't anything stock on the car. g/c coilovers, built s52, l/w flywheel, exhaust, shaved engine bay, the list goes on. to me it was beyond nice. i was never planning on selling my car. ever. here's another thread on my car - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=155250

        i dumped buckets of cash into god's chariot over the years. i added up all the work done to this car and its hovering around $35k, that's without labor. problem is, flat bill hat douche was driving his moms car which had 'get me on the road for a cheap as possible' insurance coverage. arizona minimum for property damage is $10k. so $10k is the max they will give me for the car. i've talked with several lawyers and hired one to finish up the property and medical lawsuit. they've all said the same thing - any other money has to come from a lawsuit.

        my insurance isn't going to cover anything. i had no clue shit like this could happen, its turned into a fucking nightmare. i've learn an expensive lesson, get under-insured motorist coverage. to me, its criminal that someone could have insurance that shitty. minimum property damage should easily break $50k.

        right now the next step is for me to get the car appraised go after the kid and his mom for the difference. i don't want to go into depth of pending lawsuits, but this family doesn't have a pot to piss in. fml.

        as far as my health goes, i was shook up pretty good. fortunately, i was wearing my seat belt but my melon still hit the ceiling and smashed into the drivers window. so i got to meet amber lamps and they took me to the hospital for scans and such. kept me there for a few hours, determined i had a concussion and they kicked me loose later that evening. thank god for valium! i haven't slept good since this ordeal. not to mention the stress having to deal with the fact i might lose lots of cash...
        91 m3

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          #49
          OMG...I literally gasped when I saw the pic.

          I'm sorry man, that sucks. I was mad enough when someone bumped into my 318. I don't know if I could keep myself collected if I was driving your car. I may be in jail for assault and battery...
          1991 318is - Daily/weekend track car.

          An on-ramp is a terrible thing to waste...

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            #50
            Again dude, I'm just glad you're healing.

            Since you posted this thread I was thinking you had some incredible luck and were holding a check that you didn't laugh at. These pictures do hurt to look at. You guys, Sean put so much love and attention into this car, it's hard to even comprehend. When he told me, I couldn't believe it, this was the second time an idiot hurt this beautiful machine. I was going to take pictures of it, what was it a week after this terrible thing happened? :(

            You're making me think about stuff to talk to my insurance company about when I call them next.
            Last edited by DEV0 E30; 12-19-2012, 09:14 PM.
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              #51
              i'm glad your OK man.. sorry about your car. :(
              - Fercy -

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              Santa Clarita, CA
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                #52
                Originally posted by 325Projectz View Post
                problem is, flat bill hat douche was driving his moms car which had 'get me on the road for a cheap as possible' insurance coverage.

                my insurance isn't going to cover anything.
                This is why I'm probably going to gracefully drop out of the e30 M3 scene at some point next year. I have nowhere near that amount invested in my car but I'll be damned if some flat bill fuck head is going to put me in the same situation.

                For those who say "Well that's why you have insurance, etc"... I've been rear ended before in a car I didn't care about like the M3 and it's pulling teeth with these insurance scam artists. It's not a process I want to go though with any car, but definitely not my M3.

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                  #53
                  You sir need to do everything you can to get it repaired :(

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                    #54
                    Sorry to hear.. glad you are ok though, it must have been a terrible experience. WTF with the insurance issue? This is so infuriating. The attorney fees are not going to be cheap. I have heard the saying, you can always win a lawsuit, but that doesn't mean you will collect.

                    Best of luck with this. I hope it works out in your favor.

                    Andy

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                      #55
                      Thats why with an M3 you have classic car ins. with a declared value that covers everything, and sorry I am going to say this, hate if you like, but they really cant be daily's anymore.... Mine isnt
                      Glad your ok and if you need a good lawyer, I know one here in Tucson that has been a cca member for 20 years and used to own an E30 M3... I bought mine from him

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                        #56
                        Im so sorry. This is awful.
                        E30 buildy things
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=195286

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by DEV0 E30 View Post
                          I was going to take pictures of it, what was it a week after this terrible thing happened? :(

                          You're making me think about stuff to talk to my insurance company about when I call them next.
                          the accident was friday, we were planning on shooting it sunday. :(

                          call your insurance, make sure you are covered!

                          Originally posted by Hugo Stiglitz / Janderson / Eurospeed88 View Post
                          Paging George Graves...

                          Find out who this baggypants, flatbill cocksucker is. R3V just became 325Projektz's personal army.
                          i know who he is, i have all his info ;) but i'll take a credit for gg/r3v personal army. you know, for a rainy day.

                          Originally posted by MoreMayhem View Post
                          FFFUUUUUU! Looks like it was in a parking lot? How fast was backward-hat wearing cell phone carrying red-shirt mofo driving?
                          yup, in a parking let. cops estimated 25-30mph. not sure how accurate that is. he was drankin his drank, according to a witness.

                          Originally posted by IronJoe View Post
                          What year/build date is that car?
                          i forget but i want to say 08/90. titled as a 91.

                          Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
                          that white m3 damage doesnt look anywhere as bad. the OPs m3 has a crushed floor and roof. The chassis is toast.

                          I wish you the best on a fair pay out.
                          Originally posted by UNHCLL View Post
                          The white M3 had a kinked roof, bent dashboard, damaged A-pillar, 1/4 panel damage, and the list goes on...
                          thanks bud. i don't doubt the car could be fixed. i know there are some skilled body peeps out there. given the fact the car will have a rebuilt/salvaged title, its going to be worth a whole lot less after it gets repaired. if it gets repaired. i'll have to come out of pocket to pay for some of the repairs. quite honestly, i've put enough into this car. last thing i want to do is to throw more money into this car and have it be worth less money at the end of the day.

                          we all know everyone here steers clear of salvage titled cars, esp e30 m3s... someone around here has a funny sig comparing salvage titled cars to girls i believe. if anyone knows who it is, please post it :D

                          i took a trip to where the car is being stored, only to find the passenger seat sitting on an angle. the floorboard is fucked. the firewall is fucked. the roof is fucked. the b pillar, well look a the pics, if not, its mega fucked. the carpet is sitting weird by the trans tunnel, so who knows about that.

                          Originally posted by aablown View Post
                          What type of wheels are those?
                          m-parallel reps. 18x8.5, et 13 - i think.

                          Originally posted by Andyman746 View Post
                          The attorney fees are not going to be cheap. I have heard the saying, you can always win a lawsuit, but that doesn't mean you will collect.
                          so true. i could probably say fuck it and go get another chariot for cheaper and definitely less stressful.

                          Originally posted by 89AlpineM3 View Post
                          Thats why with an M3 you have classic car ins. with a declared value that covers everything, and sorry I am going to say this, hate if you like, but they really cant be daily's anymore.... Mine isnt
                          Glad your ok and if you need a good lawyer, I know one here in Tucson that has been a cca member for 20 years and used to own an E30 M3... I bought mine from him
                          agreed on all accounts, no hate. i never daily'd this car until this year. which was when i moved a lot closer to work. so i sold my second car, and i always drove my lady's car when going out.

                          i was just getting ready to switch the car over to hagerty... my insurance policy expired 2 weeks after the accident. so i was waiting it out. to little to late.
                          91 m3

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                            #58
                            This is so hard to look at.

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                              #59
                              Sorry to hear man. I hope everything sways in your favor and get what you are entitle to.

                              Trade you my 325es for it ;)

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                                #60
                                So sorry to hear about your car but it's good that you are OK. I bought a salvaged title M3 because I wanted a car I could afford to drive and modify. You are right it will never be worth as much as a clean title car. However with the rising cost of a clean title E30 M3 the value of the salvage title cars continue to increase. You could get a roller and put your parts on that so at least you keep some of the old car on your new car and the build continues. This is every M3 owners worst nightmare, it just a damn shame.

                                Cheers,

                                Jim
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