formyhealth - 1991 318is Build Thread - now with 1000% more 1JZ-GTE

[formyhealth]

Another big box from Ford Performance showed up today. This time it's the 2.0l engine orientation kit that supplies the correct 2.3l pan, intake manifold, coolant outlet neck to send hose to the front of engine and a few other related bits.

Also got a flocking kit for the dash, I went with "Goose Grey" Suede-Tex.

[formyhealth]

Great work! The bell housing on the mustang gearbox sure looks deep, so will be interesting to see some pics on how it fits in the e30 tunnel & how far back you can get the engine.

In Australia we got a 240hp version of the 2.0 ecoboost in the RWD Ford Falcon, so I will certainly follow with interest.

Lucky!

I wonder what transmission that uses? Methinks the MT-82 probably (EDIT: it's a TR-6060). Luckily the E30 transmission tunnel opening is fairly wide and my rough (very rough) measurements says that it will fit. If not, I have a bfh and some time so not an issue for me. I'm more concerned with the engine height, at 30" it's definitely not going to fit with the hood closed, but I am not opposed to taking and angle grinder to the hood to fix that problem.

[lukeADE335i]

Great work! The bell housing on the mustang gearbox sure looks deep, so will be interesting to see some pics on how it fits in the e30 tunnel & how far back you can get the engine.

In Australia we got a 240hp version of the 2.0 ecoboost in the RWD Ford Falcon, so I will certainly follow with interest.

[formyhealth]

The Ford Performance control pack showed up today.

[formyhealth]

this should certainly be a fun combo. This is an aluminum block right? How much do you think it weighs in full trim?

I will try to figure out a way to weigh it accurately, but from anecdotal evidence:

M42 with all accesories: 345#
2.0 EcoBoost with all accessories: 328#
Getrag 260: ~95#
MT-82: ~123#

e30 318is dry weight with m42/getrag 260:2602#
e30 318is dry weight with swap theoretical: 2613#

[wworm]

this should certainly be a fun combo. This is an aluminum block right? How much do you think it weighs in full trim?

[formyhealth]

Picked up a Spec stage 2+ aluminum flywheel/clutch combo, and pilot bearing. When the engine stand shows up I'll get the engine up and swap out the 2.3l oil pan. Then mate the trans to the engine and make some time to pull the m42.

[formyhealth]

glad to see progress being made on this. Wish I knew more about this swap/motor

It may become more common to see this swap done, the engine transmission combo was $2200, which is pretty affordable for a power/$$ ratio.

[wworm]

glad to see progress being made on this. Wish I knew more about this swap/motor

[formyhealth]

Ended up going with the MT-82 Mustang transmission, found a 6k mile specimen locally!

[formyhealth]

It seems like, even though more expensive, that a tremec t56 may be a better choice due to size as well as durability. I am not liking the things I am reading about the getrag mt-82 when you throw power or high rpm shifts at them.

[formyhealth]

Thats great news! The mustang trans will hold a ton of power and have infinite support in the future.
You may need/want the mustang pan, if not custom, as well since the FWD pans are angled with the engine tilt

Yes from my understanding I will need the 2.3l pan regardless as it has the proper bolt spacing for the bottom side of the transmission bell housing. Now I need to figure out if I can also use the 2.3l flywheel, clutch, throwout bearing and starter.

[super51fan]

That's encouraging, I'll call Holley and make sure but if so I will probs go that route

**EDIT** Just got off the phone with Ford performance, the bell housing is the same between the 2.0/2.3 with the exception of the oil pan. He said an mt-82 should fit as long as I swap to a 2.3l pan which is interchangeable. So it may be worthwhile to look for a manual from a new mustang instead.

Thats great news! The mustang trans will hold a ton of power and have infinite support in the future.
You may need/want the mustang pan, if not custom, as well since the FWD pans are angled with the engine tilt

[formyhealth]

They are the same. QuickTime sells a bunch of adapters for these motors and they are all listed for both 2.0 and 2.3.

Keep us updated, I was thinking about the swap as well

That's encouraging, I'll call Holley and make sure but if so I will probs go that route

**EDIT** Just got off the phone with Ford performance, the bell housing is the same between the 2.0/2.3 with the exception of the oil pan. He said an mt-82 should fit as long as I swap to a 2.3l pan which is interchangeable. So it may be worthwhile to look for a manual from a new mustang instead.

[super51fan]

I have not got confirmation on whether the mustang transmission fits or not. It's mated to the 2.3l ecoboost in the stang. Also, the mt-82 transmission is questionable at high rpm 2-3 shifts in certain cases, though I'm sure it could handle the torque as it also goes in the v8 stang.

The engine won't be in my garage for another day or so, then I will start mocking up.

They are the same. QuickTime sells a bunch of adapters for these motors and they are all listed for both 2.0 and 2.3.

Keep us updated, I was thinking about the swap as well