I want my vert to look like this

[Dave]

Dave,

All verts have LOWER rear wheel arches (like the facelift cars) despite the bumper style.

Not low enough for me. 55mm front is lower than the 1.6" claim for the H&R Race. Plus on a vert the extra wait on the rear will make it look like a speedboat.

'scuse me - that is what I meant - they have the late model arches.

[constructor]

The cup kit is specifically listed as 'Not for iC models' on the H&R website. Know why? Because the super soft springs and extra weight of the convertible DUMP the car. Ask '92 mtechnic cabrio', he broke 4 oil pans running that setup. Definitely not a good choice IMO if you are concerned with driveability.

As far as the OP, I'm in the same boat as you. I would like to get mine a bit lower too (I'm running the exact same setup as you) and I've come to the conclusion that coilovers may be the only way. You could always try the 60/50 springs, they sound like they'd be just about right. But to get exactly the height you want, coilovers are probably the only way to go. Oh and you can keep your Bilsteins with the GC coilovers, so you wont have to throw them out.

EDIT: Do the 91 verts have higher or lower arches?

I hear you. I'll be at coilovers before you know it. It's only money, right? A man can dream. I'll post pics of the ST's so we can see if they work (that is if they ever arrive).

all verts have same low arches.

[constructor]

'scuse me - that is what I meant - they have the late model arches.

Sorry for the caps. My bad.

[Dave]

Sorry for the caps. My bad.

Cool - no worries.

[mrl325i]

Very helpful, douchebag. Read up on basic car modifying techniques. Its an aesthetic and performance oriented improvement.


Mariano

Nice. Classy.

[Motorsports]

When the ST come in would you sell the H&R sports? If so PM me.

[constructor]

When the ST come in would you sell the H&R sports? If so PM me.

PM'd

[smonkbmw]

judging from your sig, if that pic has the sports installed, i think the race will fix your issues. just short of a full inch more in drop in front will work well. the rear will only go another .3" so i would think youd start to tuck the rear wheels in, especially with the extra weight.

[constructor]

I am running H&R race springs with no spring pads in front, and both in the rear. Without them in the rear the rocker panel sits dead level with the ground, but I wanted a little rake (1/2") since it already looked like it was sitting with reverse rake even though it wasn't. Think about people getting in the car and a trunk full of shit, it would sit way too low.

My stance looks pretty close to the picture at the top.

judging from your sig, if that pic has the sports installed, i think the race will fix your issues. just short of a full inch more in drop in front will work well. the rear will only go another .3" so i would think youd start to tuck the rear wheels in, especially with the extra weight.

If I go with race, it will look like the car pictured above, which looks very nice, but to me is still a little high in the front. Vert specific sports lower 1.4"/.75". Race lowers 1.6"/1.5" (a little more on a vert, especially in the back). If the literature is correct.

I think most of you are correct. Coilovers (but we'll see what the ST's do).

I do appreciate all the help!

I figured it wouldn't be easy.

[pwagon717]

yes those pics were after i cut the rear springs. I hope it comes out well for you. I was sad after we installed the springs. Good Luck. Otherwise the ride quality was not that harsh. Save and Go coilovers.

[CorvallisBMW]

As an FYI, if you are running an adjustable camber/castor plates in the front, it will probably increase the stack height (and therefor ride height), so keep that in mind.

[jflip2002]

seriously, if your buying springs, don't complain on how low it goes, you can't get that much of a drop from springs on an e30.

you want a drop, get GCs. had them on my e30 with konis. lasted 2 years including canadian winters with no problems at all.

False.

I have the 60/50 lowtec kit, and my shits low. I have removed the spring pads, and personally wouldnt want it any lower than it is. I scrape going up and driveway or any speed bump. Z jumper has the same kit, and his ride looks pretty damn low.

[E30trash]

I don't get the obsession with lowering.

because you are a tool.

im running ground controls with billy sports and i cut my stock hats and welded the new perch really low.

not even all the way down here

[jimsill]

Constructor, still the hottest vert on the boards

[golde30]

whoever said that H&R race feels the same as GC coilovers is wrong. the GC's will have a rougher ride due to the fact that it uses much smaller and shorter linear race springs, especially if you buy their e30 specific kit which uses terrible spring rates (500/650).