Brianna GPs SpecE30 build for KishG

[Spiff325iS]

Do most SE30's remove the heater core? I figured it was usually all the interior bits + tar and the AC unit, and maybe tar in the trunk too.

[kishg]

Do most SE30's remove the heater core? I figured it was usually all the interior bits + tar and the AC unit, and maybe tar in the trunk too.

Some do, some don't. it's another potential failure point though. we'll fab up something with an inline blower to get air onto the bottom of the windshield for rainy days. shampoo works well as a defogger too :)

[Dave]

a lot of guys removed the tar, and then later wished they had not.

I think it depends alot on the weight of your cage and driver. A buddy of mine lost the chance to win the regional title this year in May when he was a couple gallons of fuel underweight and was selected for impound after the race. A shame as he is probably the fastest driver in our region. (Though the next fastest guy is darn fast as well, and is a deserving winner).

The approach I am taking in building my car is to wait until it is "complete", then weigh it and look for places to take things out if needed. I carry enough ballast on my own . . . :-)

[ZM Blue Devil]

Time to take the engine/trans out...

[ZM Blue Devil]

Out...

When you see it you will $hit bricks.

[ZM Blue Devil]

Cant wait to clean the bay out... Who ever invented the pressure washer I salute you....

Before...

[ZM Blue Devil]

After...

[e30Rob]

holy shit that thing was dirty in there...nice work!

[Hick]

ah, that pic its a little scary

[e30guydownunder]

i didn't shit bricks, but i laughed.

Subscribing on this one

[Stu]

Damn, just spent 20+min on a response to this only to lose it by the computer! Great to see GP do a SE30 (especially swap) build for next year. I do worry about ballast using a 318is chassis with no trunk tar and no sunroof equipment, however. It seems that the SE30 powers that be have made it feasible to only use a standard '87-'91 325i/is car. Early cars arn't competitive due to no ABS and 318is/M42 cars due to restrictions (A caged 318is is 100+ over min weight with full interior).

Early on, rules were that ballast was either in the standard 14" spare (~30#) or aft the firewall but forward of the passenger seat, so basically all the weight went to the passenger footwell. Now it appears you can place it anywhere aft the firewall but within the four points of the passenger seat. The 125# max might be an issue in the case of a no-sunroof car. Hoping that all pans out well for you guys and I'll definately be watching the SE30 2010 ...as always. : )

This is my understanding of the weight rules...SE30 guys, correct if wrong!

9.3.13.2. Ballast is permitted, and shall be securely mounted in the passenger foot well, aft of
the firewall, and shall be forward of the passenger seat. Alternatively, ballast may be
mounted using the passenger seat mounting points, if the passenger seat is removed.
9.3.13.2.1. Ballast shall be in segments no heavier than fifty (50) pounds.
9.3.13.2.2. Ballast may not exceed one hundred twenty five (125) pounds maximum. Spare
Tire weight per 9.3.9.7 is considered separate from this rule and may be added in
addition to the allowed 125 pounds.
9.3.13.2.3. Each segment shall be fastened with a minimum of two (2) one-half (1/2) inch
bolts and positive lock nuts of SAE grade 5 or better unless the ballast is mounted
using the four (4) passenger seat mounting points and replacement bolts, and shall
utilize large diameter, load distributing washers.
9.3.13.2.4. Holes may be drilled in the passenger foot well floor pan for purposes of
mounting the ballast and the floor pan may be reinforced for the same purpose

[kishg]

your interpretation is correct stu, however, i don't see it being too much of an issue once the cage and all the rest of the gear is in. #2750 shouldn't be hard to do, we're keeping most of the interior sound deadening and the spare in the trunk.

[JRKOUPE]

min wt...

..great thread.......

for those who havent met Kish...great guy.........


and meeting min. wt. will be the least of his issues.

[kishg]

..great thread.......

for those who havent met Kish...great guy.........


and meeting min. wt. will be the least of his issues.

haha.. tks joel (i think) ;)

[Stu]

your interpretation is correct stu, however, i don't see it being too much of an issue once the cage and all the rest of the gear is in. #2750 shouldn't be hard to do, we're keeping most of the interior sound deadening and the spare in the trunk.

I goofed my numbers thinking about your car. I was thinking it needed to be 2600 with driver since it's a 318, I forgot for the moment that it was going to be an M20 car. Shouldn't be an issue like you said.