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  • Skafrog
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2003
    • 1729

    #181
    Josh, you need your own welder.

    NASA MidSouth TT Director / GTS2 #018
    Mods: Coastal PS Fluid, 10w40 Oil
    Future Mods: Bosch Micro-Edge Wiper Blades, Painter's Tape, Spark Plugs, Freezer for Nutty Buddys, Adam Nitti CD's

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    • ben312
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jan 2009
      • 1139

      #182
      Originally posted by LedJetta
      what's your definition of a good build? cause if it's anything short of an unlimited budget, full race build this is an absolutely preposterous claim.
      No, its quite within reason. A quick trip to the junk yard can make a 200hp 1.7 8v. G60 pistons, rods and order a g60 chip upgrade. Small turbo. Maybe the g60 cam and or head, only cause its made to handel boost. There are a few builds on the tex that do this. And these are "stage one."

      Honestly the ABA makes around 110 stock. Pistons, maybe go do the 16v head swap, cam, PnP, good exhaust and a chip. You could easily make the 170 that the vr puts out. Decent build list, but nothing out of reason or budget. And far from what I would call a "race" build.
      Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
      every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
      Originally posted by Jparkr
      The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
      87 325:83 jetta coupe:99 volvo c70:99 volvo s70

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      • 8380 Labs
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        • Oct 2006
        • 2990

        #183
        forced induction yes, NA no.
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        • ben312
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Jan 2009
          • 1139

          #184
          Originally posted by LedJetta
          forced induction yes, NA no.
          haha no. The 16v head alone will make the 2.0 "comparable" the the vr6, and its also lighter. Add a cam, a chip, a good set of pistions, and a nice exhaust and you'll be beating vr6s. Next your going to say that its more work needed to make the same power as a stock vr6, and while you are right, your about to over look the huge amount of work just to swap in the vr where as the 2.0 will slide right in and bolt up. Then start looking at a stage one super charger and your seeing around 290+bhp. The turbo kit is looking upwards of 350+bhp. Also cost is what sells me, 2.0 cheaper, all around.

          Bahn Brenner is currently developing a kit specifically for use with this 16V head conversion. Based on the proven Garrett GT28RS turbo, this kit will be the most cost effective way to see 350+ bhp over any VW water cooled engine platform or swap.
          Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
          every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
          Originally posted by Jparkr
          The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
          87 325:83 jetta coupe:99 volvo c70:99 volvo s70

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          • ben312
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jan 2009
            • 1139

            #185
            A decent vr6 will cost you around 800$ for just the engine. A 2.0 sub 100$. Then you need more parts to make the vr6 fit and run. The 2.0 is drop in, plug up and go. For the time and money to get the stock vr6 in the bay, you can have that built 2.0 in.
            Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
            every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
            Originally posted by Jparkr
            The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
            87 325:83 jetta coupe:99 volvo c70:99 volvo s70

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            • freeride53
              R3V OG
              • Jul 2007
              • 11972

              #186
              It wabbit season.
              I love MKI rabbits a whole lot.

              updates?

              1991 BMW 318i (Old Shell RIP, Now Being Re-shelled & Reborn)
              1983 Peugeot 505 STI
              1992 Volvo 240 Wagon
              2009 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Sport 4WD

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              • ikkitousen
                Grease Monkey
                • May 2009
                • 386

                #187
                OMG I fuckin hate you guys...
                I was going to Donate my Freebie 84 Mk1 GTI (blown head and rust) to charity for the goddamn tax write off but now I got that budget bug bite!!! WTF!

                I need another project like I need a fuckin third job!

                /me goes to search CL for an 2.0 ABA engine...

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                DAMN YOU JANDERSON!!!

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                • MikeDE
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1873

                  #188
                  There's a clean Salmon/Peach MK1 Rabbit @ the Junkyard I always go to....maybe I should inquire about it. Need a garage first though:roll:
                  -03/2005 E46 330D Touring 6spd(204hp/410nM) Sapphire Black/Naturbraun Sport...300k KM & 35mpg(mixed)

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                  • 8380 Labs
                    Forum Sponsor
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2990

                    #189
                    Originally posted by ben312
                    haha no. The 16v head alone will make the 2.0 "comparable" the the vr6, and its also lighter. Add a cam, a chip, a good set of pistions, and a nice exhaust and you'll be beating vr6s. Next your going to say that its more work needed to make the same power as a stock vr6, and while you are right, your about to over look the huge amount of work just to swap in the vr where as the 2.0 will slide right in and bolt up. Then start looking at a stage one super charger and your seeing around 290+bhp. The turbo kit is looking upwards of 350+bhp. Also cost is what sells me, 2.0 cheaper, all around.
                    right.
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                    • ben312
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1139

                      #190
                      Originally posted by LedJetta
                      right.
                      Doubt me all you want, but you should do ALOT more reading. For the price of the vr block alone you can start building that 2.0. By the time you get the vr in, running, and working, you can have a decently build 2.0. the 2.0 is also lighter, and has cheper parts made for it. At the end of the day the vr6 will make more power, but it will cost ALOT more and be ALOT more work. You can make more power with the vr6, but you can make power cheaper and still pretty easy with the 2.0. Unless your going to do a full r32vr6 build and make over 500hp then its hardly worth all the work and money. I have done some looking into a vr swap, the BEST price i can find is 800$ for a 100k mile block or 1500$ for a mk4 vr6 front clip with again more then 100k on the block. The 2.0 on the other hand can be had for sub 100$, with less miles on it, and it will swap right in unlike the vr. Unless you really want the vr, or really wana make alota power, then the 2.0 is the smarter choice. Its that simple really.
                      Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
                      every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
                      Originally posted by Jparkr
                      The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
                      87 325:83 jetta coupe:99 volvo c70:99 volvo s70

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                      • Jand3rson
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37587

                        #191
                        Well, I'm sorry to say guys, that the Rabbit project is being aborted. I think I got myself in way over my head with this car. I wasn't looking for a full-resto, and the more stuff I pull apart, the more it looks like that's what it's going to be. I was hoping for a car I could just clean up, throw some decent suspension and wheels on, and drive around/take to shows.

                        Fixing the floor pans is going to take some pretty major body surgery, as well as the rust around the cowl. Swapping to a manual tranny is going to require a new steering rack, and more surgery to the firewall for the clutch and shift linkages, and I don't even want to get into what an engine will entail. I haven't even gotten into the suspension and brakes yet.

                        Not to mention I've got my garage totally socked-in with the Rabbit and all of it's parts, making it pretty much unusable for anything else, and my poor E30 is just sitting in my grandmother's garage with no one to keep it company but her Explorer.

                        So I am saying farewell to the little red '77, but not completely. It's going to another guy in my local euro club, and I will always know that I was the one that rescued it from rotting in a field 3 towns over.

                        What can I say? I still love MkI's, and will always drool over them. This just wasn't the right one for what I wanted. I just didn't bond with the little red-headed stepchild. The E30 is my firstborn. ;)

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                        • ben312
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1139

                          #192
                          Originally posted by Janderson
                          Well, I'm sorry to say guys, that the Rabbit project is being aborted. I think I got myself in way over my head with this car. I wasn't looking for a full-resto, and the more stuff I pull apart, the more it looks like that's what it's going to be. I was hoping for a car I could just clean up, throw some decent suspension and wheels on, and drive around/take to shows.

                          Fixing the floor pans is going to take some pretty major body surgery, as well as the rust around the cowl. Swapping to a manual tranny is going to require a new steering rack, and more surgery to the firewall for the clutch and shift linkages, and I don't even want to get into what an engine will entail. I haven't even gotten into the suspension and brakes yet.

                          Not to mention I've got my garage totally socked-in with the Rabbit and all of it's parts, making it pretty much unusable for anything else, and my poor E30 is just sitting in my grandmother's garage with no one to keep it company but her Explorer.

                          So I am saying farewell to the little red '77, but not completely. It's going to another guy in my local euro club, and I will always know that I was the one that rescued it from rotting in a field 3 towns over.

                          What can I say? I still love MkI's, and will always drool over them. This just wasn't the right one for what I wanted. I just didn't bond with the little red-headed stepchild. The E30 is my firstborn. ;)
                          time to find a new shell
                          Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
                          every time an M-tech 1 spoiler is destroyed, a baby seal dies.
                          Originally posted by Jparkr
                          The last thing we need are more of the retards on here thinking they are engineers too.
                          87 325:83 jetta coupe:99 volvo c70:99 volvo s70

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                          • mikeedler
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6707

                            #193
                            be happy you dumped it. in the end you would have hated yourself for spending all your money on it-- I know i built a few of em back in the days and was never really satisfied with the end product.
                            why I love BMWs now.

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                            • aproy
                              E30 Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 585

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Janderson
                              Well, I'm sorry to say guys, that the Rabbit project is being aborted. I think I got myself in way over my head with this car. I wasn't looking for a full-resto, and the more stuff I pull apart, the more it looks like that's what it's going to be. I was hoping for a car I could just clean up, throw some decent suspension and wheels on, and drive around/take to shows.

                              Fixing the floor pans is going to take some pretty major body surgery, as well as the rust around the cowl. Swapping to a manual tranny is going to require a new steering rack, and more surgery to the firewall for the clutch and shift linkages, and I don't even want to get into what an engine will entail. I haven't even gotten into the suspension and brakes yet.

                              Not to mention I've got my garage totally socked-in with the Rabbit and all of it's parts, making it pretty much unusable for anything else, and my poor E30 is just sitting in my grandmother's garage with no one to keep it company but her Explorer.

                              So I am saying farewell to the little red '77, but not completely. It's going to another guy in my local euro club, and I will always know that I was the one that rescued it from rotting in a field 3 towns over.

                              What can I say? I still love MkI's, and will always drool over them. This just wasn't the right one for what I wanted. I just didn't bond with the little red-headed stepchild. The E30 is my firstborn. ;)

                              i just read this whole thread, got all excited for it too. now i feel like i just watched a movie with a real hot chick in it, and it ended without seeing her boobs.
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                              • Mstngcobr761
                                E30 Addict
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 557

                                #195
                                Originally posted by aproy
                                i just read this whole thread, got all excited for it too. now i feel like i just watched a movie with a real hot chick in it, and it ended without seeing her boobs.
                                HAHHA so good...and true

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