My e30 DTM car copy build

[StreuB1]

A JD2 bender is like $500... there is no reason to run alloy steel over with a freaking truck to bend it.

Closer to the chassis is farther from the driver.

The flip side: Why would you want an ill-fitting roll cage?

Have you ever bent a roll bar yourself before??

[FredK]

StreuB1 is over on bf.c, and is known to fabricate some pretty crazy shit. :up:

[matt]

Whats yer beef with the bending? Why does it have to be tight to the sheet metal again??

A JD2 bender is like $500... there is no reason to run alloy steel over with a freaking truck to bend it.

Closer to the chassis is farther from the driver.

The flip side: Why would you want an ill-fitting roll cage?

[madjurgen]

Wrong.

That is a shitty MAXX piggy-back computer.
It won't do what you need it to with the build you're claiming.

S14 guru, John uses MAXX with his build that is easily putting out 320+hp and he knows waaaaaaaay more than you or your dad ever will. As long as you have the correct MS chip for proper timing and spark with respect to the hardware youre running, MAXX is nothing more than fuel control.

If youre going to be an ass at least know what youre talking about.

[StreuB1]

Care to take more pot shots at this build guys??

Whats yer beef with the bending? Why does it have to be tight to the sheet metal again??

And what have you all built??? Lemme see some pics please.

-sits back and waits-

[///meric]

Wrong.

That is a shitty MAXX piggy-back computer.
It won't do what you need it to with the build you're claiming. But hey, just like you half-assed the rollbar bending, and the bar isn't even close to being tight to the chassis, half ass the engine management and let me know when you're ready to sell the blown engine.

I know that the maxx piggyback isnt the best way to go. But its highly developed and i can get alot of techinical support for it, which is why i went with it. This is my first built motor, i am doing and i wanted an engine managment that i would have alot of support for. I know of quite a few Maxx systems that are used on several MS built motor. Once the car is running i will change the management system, but im looking to get the car running sooner rather then latter and this was they simplest ECU system.

As for the cage. I know its not perfict, but thats the way it is and im working with it.

[Firestorm]

Wrong.

That is a shitty MAXX piggy-back computer.
It won't do what you need it to with the build you're claiming. But hey, just like you half-assed the rollbar bending, and the bar isn't even close to being tight to the chassis, half ass the engine management and let me know when you're ready to sell the blown engine.

Ooooh, shut dowwwwn.

[UNHCLL]

the ecu

Wrong.

That is a shitty MAXX piggy-back computer.
It won't do what you need it to with the build you're claiming. But hey, just like you half-assed the rollbar bending, and the bar isn't even close to being tight to the chassis, half ass the engine management and let me know when you're ready to sell the blown engine.

[///meric]

If you want it all authentic DTM why exactly are you doing this to a 325e?

And you must be delirious if you think you are going to do a 275rwhp S14 for $10,000

no i know what that will cost i want 250 wheel, for under 10k

[Ray Smoodiver]

This project is awesomer than FredK's sister.

[Hick]

Meh, id take a 2.5 S14 over most of the s/m 5X swaps... if cost was not an object.

[///meric]

rofl it's true, would probably cost 1/2 the price, have more power w/o doing any engine work and won't be THAT front heavy with aluminum block.

I do agree, the s14 is not a cheap motor to build. That is something i have known since the start of this build. But i want to keep it DTM original. I know guy that are spending upwards of 40k on a MS replica s14 motor, pankle ti rods DTM blocks and cranks. All brand new from the dealer. IM not going to be one of them. I do not want to spend over 10k on the s14. Yes i know it would be anywear near the power of an ls1. But theres just something about the noise an s14 with a carbon airbox that does it for me. the only other motors i would swap in is m3 v8 or an s62.

[Jean]

v8 or gtfo

rofl it's true, would probably cost 1/2 the price, have more power w/o doing any engine work and won't be THAT front heavy with aluminum block.

[Firestorm]

v8 or gtfo

[///meric]

Got any close up's of the welds?

here u go



heres the brakes



the pistons



Full 92 DTM s14 piston copys



Gotta have a good gas tank



the ecu



Now i just got to put all this stuff together.