My e30 DTM car copy build

[///meric]

We use only the finest German hammers and blowtorches to bend tube.

The design of the cage looks decent (you obviously picked a good design to copy) but... work on your fabrication techniques. It's totally unacceptable to weld a tube straight to the chassis. (there are exceptions to this, but not where you did)

You probably shouldn't be using 4130 either...

I agree the rear tube attachment is not optimal. And since i removed the rear X to fully weld it im going to redo the rear shock mounts out of some 1/8 mild steel i have.

I dont see why not use 4130, its what the pro teams use and they use it for a reason.

[matt]

It's overkill. There is a really good discussion of metal selection in Engineer to Win by Carroll Smith.

[4ce30]

gnarly!
-Brandon

[FredK]

Is there anything wrong with 4130, as long as you GTAW it?

[matt]

VSR uses a range rover, don't they?

-Charlie

We use only the finest German hammers and blowtorches to bend tube.

The design of the cage looks decent (you obviously picked a good design to copy) but... work on your fabrication techniques. It's totally unacceptable to weld a tube straight to the chassis. (there are exceptions to this, but not where you did)

You probably shouldn't be using 4130 either...

[Charlie]

I'd like to buy this, except seeing the rollbar being bent by driving over it with a car removes all credibility.

VSR uses a range rover, don't they?

-Charlie

[FredK]

ah ok, my bad. ///meric is NOT the dude in CO. He is the guy who posted pics of AP racing calipers not fitting into a bottlecap wheel, saying they were the brakes we want, but cannot afford.

Well, good luck with your project.

[UNHCLL]

AS bill stated no corner will be cut and I'm building everything to a very high standered

I'd like to buy this, except seeing the rollbar being bent by driving over it with a car removes all credibility.

[///meric]

nice project bro, looking forward for more pics

who is bending and welding for you

The welding is being done by me



Since everyone knows im going to be running ap racing brakes a balance bar is needed. So im going to be running floor mount pedals too. AS bill stated no corner will be cut and I'm building everything to a very high standered

so why an S14? Im curious to why you chose that motor as suppose to other common swaps that are available?

Mainly becuase i want to learn the car before i go for crazy power levels. Its getting built and should be putting down between 250 and 275 wheel. Carbonfiber airbox. MS cams, JE dtm copy pistons. Knife edged crank, and if i can located on over next summer a Grp A Cylinderhead. Dry sumped motor, with a custom front subframe to lower the motor I should then be putting down 275 wheel hp easy and since the car will weigh less then 2200 LB it will be more then fast enough.

Right now im more concerned with getting the car built then dialed in. Once thats done i will do a DTM tubular trailing arm set up with adjustable rear roll center, and cockpiut adjustable sway bars. Then i will start building a bmw v8.

[Bill-B]

Damn, you have been workin' you ass off since I saw it last...
and this project is legit, not any of that chicken wire bullshit...

[MikeK]

so why an S14? Im curious to why you chose that motor as suppose to other common swaps that are available?

[///meric]

heres some photos of the driver A pillar bar. Hopefully this week i Get the sheet metal gussets fabricated so that the drivers side door car wil be completly done.





The Subframe tie in is almost done.

[Julien]

Let's set this straight
bnumbners is NOT chicken wire boy.
Bnumbners = erick/rwdrift picking up myspace chicks
Chickenwire= some random toolbag with teh razors suspension.

teaguer: we got the joke on the first post :-*

and on the subject of reinforcing the rear shock mounts: I agree, it even lends the possiblity or running true rear coil overs down the road.

Julien

[M42Technik]

I miss "bumbners"

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[Mike B.]

Very nice work! I am looking to create a similar design when I install my cage. I like the way you are tying in the diff and rear subframe mounting points.