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  • franco90
    No R3VLimiter
    • Nov 2006
    • 3185

    #61
    Originally posted by Jordan325iC
    Oil temp, please. Holy crap make an oil temp.
    1.Jordan325ic
    2.clavinZERO
    3.Franco90
    Last edited by franco90; 12-28-2007, 10:33 AM.

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    • xLibelle
      R3VLimited
      • Aug 2004
      • 2673

      #62
      1.Jordan325ic
      2.clavinZERO
      3.Franco90
      4.xLibelle

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      • Jordan325iC
        E30 Mastermind
        • Aug 2005
        • 1697

        #63
        I don't know jack shit about electronics, but if you're going with an oil-temp gauge, would it be possible to color-code the bar-graph lights? As in green at safe oil temperatures, yellow once it gets to the high end of acceptable, and then red once you get to dangerously high oil temps? So green bulbs to the left, a few yellow bulbs in the middle, and red bulbs on the right.

        '88 325is
        VP UT of Austin Autoholics
        BMWCCA 380364

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        • george graves
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Oct 2003
          • 19986

          #64
          Originally posted by xLibelle
          1.Jordan325ic
          2.clavinZERO
          3.Franco90
          4.xLibelle
          Wow you guys - one step at a time. It take more than you think to gear up for stuff like this...

          I *THOUGHT* this was going to be a small project. I planned on it to measure battery voltage, and be a LC-1 wide band display from the LC-1's own output (yes a real wideband display- not a narrow band like the video - the LC1 just happens to have the perfect output for it).

          I'd really like to sell a few of them(the above) and then dive into the oil pressure/temp and other stuff.

          Since you 4 are all so ready - why don't you tell me what price you are shooting for? Keep in mind that I have to source hazard switches($5? $10? each? - and custom build them - test and ship with tracking - $4.60)

          I'll try and pick up a VDO temp sensor soon. One thing that I have found is that anything you sell has to be painless to install. Here is what I have discovered so far for the 4 of you.

          You can mount a temp sensor in a few places:

          Option 1 - Have a "bung" welded to your oil pan - mount it there (very bad idea - costly, not true oil temp, PITA)
          <<< EDIT I've since learned that this is not true - and oil temps are about the same not matter where you measure from

          Option 2 - Get a sandwich plate and then you can mount both a oil temp and an pressure sensor later on - or just block it off the pressure for now.


          Not bad for $33 bucks - quality piece...and it bolts right up - all you need is a wrench.


          Option 3 - Or do like our fearless leader did (very nice set up BTW - this is what you want if you are only going for oil temp and on the cheap) - just drill and tap the oil filter mounting bolt.


          $**Free**

          It might look a bit odd - but with some Teflon tape, it is the best solution - all you need to do is drill and tap. Any shade tree mechanic could do it in an afternoon or less.

          I'm working on getting a batch of hazard/defrost switches - but my source won't Pm me back (cough*funk*cough) - if you have a lot of them or know where to get them - let me know.

          Just fyi, there is a good chance that the oil temp sensor is not a "linear" sensor - meaning that I'll have to convert it resistance and the circuit will have to do some math on it on the fly. That will call for a microcontroller. So - don't expect it in a few weeks.

          Well time to order up some parts...and to get back to my main project...
          Last edited by george graves; 08-15-2008, 09:56 PM.
          Originally posted by Matt-B
          hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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          • Jordan325iC
            E30 Mastermind
            • Aug 2005
            • 1697

            #65
            Haha, I'm just yanking your chain really. I understand how time consuming a project like this can be. I'm certainly not trying to badger you or anything like that, just letting you know that you will have a serious buyer.

            I personally was planning to go with option 3. BMP design actually sells a bolt on thing:

            Which couldn't be any easier.

            Option two is also really nice. I had been under the impression that there wasn't a product like this for the m20. Glad I was wrong! I could end up going that route, But the only one I can find on racersmarket.com costs $65, not 33. ?

            '88 325is
            VP UT of Austin Autoholics
            BMWCCA 380364

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            • george graves
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Oct 2003
              • 19986

              #66
              Originally posted by Jordan325iC
              http://www.racersmarket.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_26&products_id=65But the only one I can find on racersmarket.com costs $65, not 33. ?
              Try this link - it says $33


              Thanks for the heads up on the BMP unit.



              What are the threads on the oil pan drain plug ? M10x1 perhaps?




              If this one fits - it's only $17.
              Last edited by george graves; 12-29-2007, 08:06 AM.
              Originally posted by Matt-B
              hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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              • clavinZERO
                Hella sick E30
                • Mar 2004
                • 2027

                #67
                I can wait, and I'm not a cheap bastard. So.... do what you gotta do George. Excellent progress. Keep us updated sir!

                "BMW Style 32 Poster-Child"
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                • devonjordan
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2386

                  #68
                  Yeah, I'd definitely be in for one or two of these as well, depending on what you get them set up for.
                  Hemingway said it best. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

                  Help a brother out, buy your detailing products here...

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                  • xLibelle
                    R3VLimited
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 2673

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Jordan325iC
                    Haha, I'm just yanking your chain really. I understand how time consuming a project like this can be. I'm certainly not trying to badger you or anything like that, just letting you know that you will have a serious buyer.
                    ;)

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                    • franco90
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 3185

                      #70
                      Originally posted by xLibelle
                      ;)
                      +1

                      I've always been proud of being a Marine.
                      I won't hesitate to defend the Corps
                      "Supersquad"

                      ‎"Prostitutes are a sub-category of Amusement Parks"-

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                      • george graves
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 19986

                        #71
                        If anyone was wondering what that third window button did...I found an extra one

                        As far as I could tell it was ONLY a switch - I jumper'ed it directly across the terminals of a car battery - All I got was sparks - it didn't pop like a circuit breaker... So I took it apart.



                        The contacts are not that "bi-metal" material either (cooked it with a lighter - didn't move at all)...
                        Last edited by george graves; 12-29-2007, 08:32 PM.
                        Originally posted by Matt-B
                        hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                        • nefarious7907
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1170

                          #72
                          figure out how to integrate LED's into an M tech 2 ala Ferrari, and let me know.


                          http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657387

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                          • george graves
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 19986

                            #73
                            Got a bunch of research done. Still waiting on some parts(cough, cough) - I'm running out of "free" time to do this - so sorry for the long delay.

                            Originally posted by nefarious7907
                            figure out how to integrate LED's into an M tech 2 ala Ferrari, and let me know.
                            I don't know what to say???? ....I'll call you on the bat phone when done!!!!
                            Last edited by george graves; 08-26-2010, 12:14 PM. Reason: edited TO BE VERY NICE.....
                            Originally posted by Matt-B
                            hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                            • So Live
                              R3VLimited
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2512

                              #74
                              Im totally in for at least Oil pressure and temperature. Possibly wideband o2 but well see.

                              Killer progress and idea dude.

                              Ill go for the econometer boost gauge too :)
                              -Chris

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                              • scott_is
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 310

                                #75
                                wow amazing...now I want one.
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