The Glenn Beck Program

[aaron325ix]

Remember, he is a typical liberal and everybody can see through him. They get very mad and defensive when you use truth and logic. This is something they are not used to dealing with.

Right, and truth and logic is just what Glenn Beck bases his program on. Not to mention that doughy blowhard in your avatar. they are the voice of truth and reason.

Palin Limbaugh 2012!!
Dont get a boner trent, that was sarcasm too

[E30 Cabrio]

So after all that, what youre saying is that you like GB.
Got it. I just hope you honestly dont think he is funny. :p

Where did I say I like Glenn Beck?

My post was in regards to the demonstrable proof of left of center bias by the mainstream media and I also commented on the investigation of ACORN by Beck, which is something the remainder of the media should be doing but refuse to do so.

The media would rather dig into the past of Sarah Palin, her children, Joe the Plumber, Miss California, etc... and smear them, all the while ignoring the John Edwards scandal (until it was reported by the National Enquirer) because Edwards was still on Obama's short list of VP candidates, or how the MSM spiked the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal and it took some then unknown by the name of Matt Drudge to break the story.

The media is basically smearing and attempting to discredit people that don't agree with the Democrats agenda, while ignoring the actions of people like Perez Hilton, who called Miss California a "stupid bitch" because she believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

If someone is a Christian and/or Conservative, nothing is off-limits.

But if a Christian/Conservative says something like marriage should be between a man and a woman, they are vilified.

I consider myself to be a Libertarian and I'm not religious and I don't have as much issue with the Democratic party as I do with the media and our public school system.

I don't agree with a lot of the things they do, along with many things the Republicans do and have done, such as the spending under the Bush administration.

I think both parties basically want Americans to prosper and to succeed, but the Dems and the GOP have very different ideas on the path it takes for that to happen.

The Dems in general believe that people should be more reliant on the government while Republicans believe more in self-reliance.

My big issue is that the mainstream media in the US has lost most if not all credibility with their demonstrable and provable bias favoring the Dems.

Same with the public schools, as the Teachers unions favor the Dems even more than the media.

I have relatives in the public school system and the stories they tell me are appalling.

It's even worse now then when I was in school and its going to continue.

Back to the point, I just recently started watching Glenn Beck and I think he is somewhat of a goofball, but the investigative journalism he has or at least his staff has been doing regarding ACORN has been eye-opening and informative and is showing just how corrupt this group is, how they are getting tons of taxpayer money, how our money is going to umbrella groups favoring Democrats, how ACORN is exploiting their workers and how votes and voters are being manufactured.

The fact that the remainder of the media is ignoring this scandal is another indictment of their bias.

Currently, the Obama administration is threatening to withhold over 6 Billion dollars of "stimulus" money from California if the Governor doesn't go along with a plan to favor one of the many groups under the umbrella of ACORN

If it weren't for FNC, this story would remain buried, right where the current administration wants it.

I guarantee you if the script was flipped, the MSM would be all over it.

It usually goes something like this:

Media breaks the story, runs it 24/7, headline news, etc....

They keep the story in the news cycle, breaking new revelations every day.

After the story has gained "traction" the media then runs polls to get validation that the public is outraged.

They then run those polls 24/7, etc...

Followed by another news cycle of "Should (insert name of Republican here) step down, resign, etc...?

Followed by...you guessed it - more polls.

So now that "public opinion" demands that (insert name of Republican here) the media then runs those polls 24/7

Example:

Trent Lott makes an innocent remark about then Senator Strom Thurmond at Thurmonds 100th Birthday celebration that gets blown out of proportion by the media.

Now, contrast that to Nancy Pelosi and her blatant lying and using the whole waterboarding issue for political and partisan purposes.

Lott had to step down as House leader, while the Pelosi story came and went in 24 hours.

Why?

Because the media chose to make a big deal out of the Lott story, kept it in the news cycle, created outrage over it and eventually, Lott was forced to step down as House leader, that despite apologizing.

Pelosi?

Denials. Parsing of words. No apology. Nothing.

And the media?

No outrage. No polls. No investigation. Nothing.

Both parties have hypocrites, both parties have faults, both parties have ignorant people in them, yet the media has a huge double-standard when it comes to how they report and on who.

Barack Obama says he intends to campaign in "all 57 states" yet the media ignores this embarrassing gaffe.

Yet Dan Quayle misspells "Potato" as "Potatoe" (as written on the Flash card he was reading from provided by the school he was at) and the media vilifies him. (see below)

The media excoriates a politician for misspelling a word, yet Pelosi lies about national security issues and exploits them for political gain and hardly a word.

Here is the truth behind the Dan Quayle quote:

His most famous blunder occurred when he corrected student William Figueroa's correct spelling of "potato" to "potatoe" at an elementary school spelling bee in Trenton, New Jersey, on June 15, 1992.[15][16] Although he was relying on cards provided by the school which included the misspelling, Quayle was widely lambasted for his apparent inability to spell the word "potato".

According to his memoirs, Quayle was uncomfortable with the version he gave, but did so because he decided to trust the school's incorrect written materials.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle

[aaron325ix]

^^^

Seriously though, I do agree with you on a lot you say about current media and where society is heading, but man you work your self up way too hard about a thread on a car web site. Especially one asking opinions on GB, who I think most people understand is not to be taken too seriuosly. Just relax and the GOP will be back up in no time. As long as they quit gambling, and pulling stunts like nominating some tart from alaska for VP.

[CorvallisBMW]

^ perfect picture for what I was thinking.

[E30 Cabrio]

You just made my point for me - people don't bother "reading all that shit" and instead depend on 10 second soundbites from a biased media and end up having the media form their opinions for them.

The "tart from Alaska" comment is Exhibit A

A recent poll of Obama voters showed that 87% of them thought Sarah Palin made the claim that she could see Russia from her house.

She never said that. Tina Fey did while doing a parody of Palin on "Saturday Night Live"

So you have all these people running around saying "Sarah Palin is stupid. She said she can see Russia from her house" and then laughing.
Or worse, stating that she claimed that as her foreign policy experience.

I've personally witnessed this on several occasions.
At work. At the place I get my hair cut. On internet forums and other places.

Never mind that Anchorage and Wasilla are both hundreds of miles from Russia and it would be impossible to see Russia from either location.
Apparently, these people also had a poor grasp of Geography as well.
And ignorant of the fact that Palin never said that.

Yet Palin is stupid, not them.

How ironic - people laughing at their own ignorance and not even knowing it, and calling someone else "stupid" for their own stupidity.

It's mind boggling.
Yet these people are voting and electing candidates that make potentially life changing decisions for all of us.

And contrast the questions Charlie Gibson asked Barack Obama and John Edwards compared to the questions he asked of Sarah Palin for further proof of how the media is not only biased, but also forms public opinion, especially when it comes to politics and candidates.

I can post the links to the transcripts, but I imagine you wouldn't "bother to read all that shit"

And yeah, I do take this shit seriously because there are intellectually lazy people who vote and elect our leaders based on their own ignorance.

It reminds me of the Jr. High School class presidency election.
The guy who won ran on the claim that if he did win, Coca-Cola would flow thru the drinking fountains instead of water.

Sadly, we live in a country where people can readily name the top 4 "American Idol" contestants but couldn't name the Senators that represent their state or the congressman/congresswoman that represents their district.

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What entity is responsible for the following misconceptions?


Ninety-four percent of Obama voters correctly identified Palin as the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter, 86% correctly identified Palin as the candidate associated with a $150,000 wardrobe purchased by her political party, and 81% chose McCain as the candidate who was unable to identify the number of houses he owned.

When asked which candidate said they could "see Russia from their house," 87% chose Palin, although the quote actually is attributed to Saturday Night Live's Tina Fey during her portrayal of Palin during the campaign.

Obama voters did not fare nearly as well overall when asked to answer questions about statements or stories associated with Obama or Biden -- 83% failed to correctly answer that Obama had won his first election by getting all of his opponents removed from the ballot, and 88% did not correctly associate Obama with his statement that his energy policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry. Most (56%) were also not able to correctly answer that Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground.

Nearly three quarters (72%) of Obama voters did not correctly identify Biden as the candidate who had to quit a previous campaign for President because he was found to have plagiarized a speech, and nearly half (47%) did not know that Biden was the one who predicted Obama would be tested by a generated international crisis during his first six months as President.

57% of Obama voters were unable to correctly answer that Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1642#Anchor-37902

So basically, Obama voters (and others) were well-informed of the Palin negatives and those of McCain, even some that weren't even true, but under-informed when it came to negative aspects of Obama and Biden.

This isn't meant to bash Obama voters, but it is meant to be an example of the media and how they form public opinion.

Of course, since many of you didn't bother to "read all this shit" you probably fall into the same category of under-informed people.

BTW, Palin was just cleared in an Ethics investigation against her in Alaska last week.

But everyone knows that as it was all over the news, right?

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/789394.html

Again, sadly, we have all this information available to us yet people still depend on 10 second soundbites by a demonstrably biased media to form their opinions for them.

If Paris Hilton starting carrying a purse made out of a douchebag, you would see a bunch of young chicks doing the same within few weeks.

[CorvallisBMW]

You just made my point for me - people don't bother "reading all that shit" and instead depend on 10 second soundbites from a biased media and end up having the media form their opinions for them.

The "tart from Alaska" comment is Exhibit A

A recent poll of Obama voters showed that over 87% of them thought Sarah Palin made the claim that she could see Russia from her house.

She never said that. Tina Fey did while doing a parody of Palin on "Saturday Night Live"

So you have all these people running around saying "Can you believe how stupid Sarah Palin is? She said she can see Russia from her house!" and then laughing.

I've personally witnessed this on several occasions.
At work. At the place I get my hair cut. On internet forums and other places.

Never mind that Anchorage and Wasilla are both hundreds of miles from Russia and it would be impossible to see Russia from either location.

How ironic - people laughing at their own ignorance and not even knowing it.

And contrast the questions Charlie Gibson asked Barack Obama and John Edwards compared to the questions he asked of Sarah Palin for further proof of how the media is not only biased, but forms peoples opinions, especially when it comes to politics and candidates.

I can post the links to the transcripts, but I imagine you wouldn't "bother to read all that shit"

And yeah, I do take this shit seriously.

Sadly, we live in a country where people can readily name the top 4 "American Idol" contestents but couldn't name Senators that represent their state or the congressman/congresswoman that represents their district.

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What entity is responsible for the following misconceptions?

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1642#Anchor-37902

Ninety-four percent of Obama voters correctly identified Palin as the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter, 86% correctly identified Palin as the candidate associated with a $150,000 wardrobe purchased by her political party, and 81% chose McCain as the candidate who was unable to identify the number of houses he owned. When asked which candidate said they could "see Russia from their house," 87% chose Palin, although the quote actually is attributed to Saturday Night Live's Tina Fey during her portrayal of Palin during the campaign. An answer of "none" or "Palin" was counted as a correct answer on the test, given that the statement was associated with a characterization of Palin.

Obama voters did not fare nearly as well overall when asked to answer questions about statements or stories associated with Obama or Biden -- 83% failed to correctly answer that Obama had won his first election by getting all of his opponents removed from the ballot, and 88% did not correctly associate Obama with his statement that his energy policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry. Most (56%) were also not able to correctly answer that Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground.

Nearly three quarters (72%) of Obama voters did not correctly identify Biden as the candidate who had to quit a previous campaign for President because he was found to have plagiarized a speech, and nearly half (47%) did not know that Biden was the one who predicted Obama would be tested by a generated international crisis during his first six months as President.

Do you have any stats on the number of McCain supporters that thought Obama was a Muslim? Or the number that think he was born outside the US? Or that he's a terrorist? Or how about how many of them thought he was going to outlaw all firearms or nationalize all the hospitals and doctors? I bet they're in the 80%-90% range too. Do you have anything like that?

On second thought, how could I expect fair and balanced postings from someone who thinks Fox News and Glenn Beck are reliable and accurate sources of information.

[mscott]

Do you have any stats on the number of McCain supporters that thought Obama was a Muslim? Or the number that think he was born outside the US? Or that he's a terrorist? Or how about how many of them thought he was going to outlaw all firearms or nationalize all the hospitals and doctors? I bet they're in the 80%-90% range too. Do you have anything like that?

On second thought, how could I expect fair and balanced postings from someone who thinks Fox News and Glenn Beck are reliable and accurate sources of information.

We'll an independent study from NYU and UCLA that came out in the past 5 years did. Look at my previous post.

[E30 Cabrio]

Do you have any stats on the number of McCain supporters that thought Obama was a Muslim? Or the number that think he was born outside the US? Or that he's a terrorist? Or how about how many of them thought he was going to outlaw all firearms or nationalize all the hospitals and doctors? I bet they're in the 80%-90% range too. Do you have anything like that?

On second thought, how could I expect fair and balanced postings from someone who thinks Fox News and Glenn Beck are reliable and accurate sources of information.

Thanks for proving my point for me:

The MSM investigated "Joe the Plumber" more thoroughly then the front-running Presidential candidate, merely for asking a non-scripted question.

I don't recall the MSM running any stories about Obama being a Muslim (even though he said he is one and claimed it was a slip of the tongue. George Stephanopolous had to correct him)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

I don't recall the MSM questioning Obama's citizenship or mentioning that he has spent nearly 1 million dollars in legal fees to avoid releasing his proof of citizenship.

But I do recall CBS broadcasting known forged documents a month before the Presidential election, during war time in order to falsely discredit the sitting President which ended the career of Dan Rather as he put his partisanship over his journalistic standards.

I don't recall the MSM claiming Obama is going to ban firearms.

I don't recall the MSM doing any of the things you listed, yet the MSM did report extensively on the cost of Palin's RNC supplied clothes while ignoring Obama's numerous $5,000 suits.

Palin's clothes cost less then half of the Air Force One flyover of NYC and got 10x the negative press, and it turned out that most of the negative stories about Palin going on shopping sprees were false, thanks to the MSM, and that those clothes were later donated to the needy.

And the MSM has yet to ask for a manifest of any possible passengers on that flight that buzzed NYC

Was anyone on AF1? Campaign donors? Obama? Who knows? The MSM isn't asking and the WH isn't telling.

The MSM did make a big deal out of the number of homes McCain owns while all but ignoring the fact that Obama acquired his home in a shady land deal with a 16x convicted felon. (Toni Rezko)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

The MSM did make a big deal out of Todd Palin associating with a group of secessionists, yet all but ignored Obama kicking off his political career in the home of a domestic terrorist.

The MSM hounded Bush for months when he was running for President about alleged drug use, but hardly mentioned the fact that Obama was a self-admitted regular user of cocaine.

I don't recall the MSM mocking anti-war protestors, but I did see them mocking Americans protesting against excessive government spending by comparing them to a sexual act performed mainly by homosexual men.

I do recall the media vilifying Dan Quayle for reading misspelled words from a Flash Card, yet hardly a mention about Obama talking about campaigning in "all 57 states"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Or how Obama spoke of giving children "breathalysers" instead an inhalator for asthma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE

The mainstream media investigated Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, Miss California, etc... more thoroughly than Barack Obama.


And Obama can easily clear up his citizenship issue by releasing his records.

Instead, he's spent nearly 1 million dollars in court cases to avoid the release.

On his first day in office, January 21, 2009, Obama signed Executive Order 13489. This order was entered into the Federal Register on January 26, 2009.

What this executive order says, is that only the Attorney General (Eric Holder) and Council to the President, (Gregory Craig) are able to review presidential records requests and determine if they can be made public or not. (See Section 3)

In other words, you aren't going to see any records or documents that Obama doesn't want you to see.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that Obama's first official act was to deny access to his records. Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving behind any record of his existence.

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport -- Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser.
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

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Not only is Obama an empty suit, he's an invisible man, at least on paper.


But this isn't about Obama, it's about the blatant, obvious and demonstrable bias favoring the left by the media which I haven proven with non-biased, non-partisan sources and numerous factual examples.

Once again, the MSM gave 78% of their campaign money to the DNC in the last election cycle, and 70% since 1990:

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=B02

And of course, the largest, most comprehensive, non-partisan media bias study ever done proves that 18 of the top 20 media outlets lean left of center:

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

And resulting polls show that many voters are under-informed or mis-informed as I proved in the poll results posted a few posts above regarding Palin, McCain, Obama and Biden, and the fact that 57% of Obama voters couldn't name the party that controls both the House and the Senate.

57%?

You could get 50% just by guessing.

If that isn't indicative of an ill-informed public, I don't know what is.

Why are these voters so ill-informed?

The public school system?

The MSM?

Intellectual laziness?

All of the above?

Like I said, we live in the "information age" yet people are more mis-informed in any time that I can remember due to the MSM and our public school system, both of which are run by the Dems.

[kronus]

But this isn't about Obama, it's about the blatant, obvious and demonstrable bias favoring the left by the media which I haven proven with non-biased, non-partisan sources and numerous factual examples.

You're hilarious.

[CorvallisBMW]

Fuck dude, you wrote a whole fucking essay and still didn't answer or even allude to my questions. You just rant on about anything and everything that you can in order to get out of answering someone's valid and pointed question that you don't have an answer for. I don't care if Obama never released his college transcripts, I doubt McCain did either.

Get over yourself.

You're hilarious.

Hey man, Townhall.com is totally unbiased and reliable. Totally. Really. I promise.

[E30 Cabrio]

I really don't have an opinion either way about the left or rightness of the news channels, but I would like to point out that some of the logic here is a little faulty.

Just because different media outlets donated to DNC more than they did to RNC, DOES NOT mean that a media outlet or an individual isn't the single largest contributor. Hell I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical to make my point:

John waffleswaffleswaffles contributes 70% of his money to DNC and 30% of his money to RNC. If his 30% to the RNC is the largest contribution that RNC gets, he's still the largest contributor to that group, even if he donated over twice that amount to DNC.

So e30 cabrio, most of those percentage facts that you posted on page 2 or 3 don't really mean squat because the quote that started this all was referring to Merdoch, not to FNC. The guy was trying to say that Merdoch donates money to RNC and also runs FNC, albeit the grammar was a little messy, but you misread it and started flying off the hook with the links to campaign contributions.

Also, Merdoch could have been supporting Hillary because he thought the Rep had a better chance against her than Obama, the world may never know.

End of story...

Not end of story as your hypothesis is incorrect and if you checked out the link to opensecrets.org, you would have seen that.

As far as your Murdoch/Hillary theory, it's just that - a theory based on opinion.

I post demonstrable facts and true examples to back my arguments and opinions and will back them up with links to non-partisan sources.

And seeing how 18 of the top 20 media outlets lean left of center, the question is:

Is Fox News Channel right of center, or does it just appear that way when contrasted to the MSM which demonstrably leans left of center?

Perhaps this is more accurate:

Left.........................Center............... .........Right

......MSM....................FNC.................P erception of FNC

Again, this is based on the fact that the MSM gave 78% of their money to the DNC last election and 70% since 1990 and that 18 of the top 20 MSM outlets lean left.

[E30 Cabrio]

Fuck dude, you wrote a whole fucking essay and still didn't answer or even elude to my questions. You just rant on about anything and everything that you can in order to get out of answering someone's valid and pointed question that you don't have an answer for. I don't care if Obama never released his college transcripts, I doubt McCain did either.

Get over yourself.



Hey man, Townhall.com is totally unbiased and reliable. Totally. Really. I promise.

Again, this isn't about McCain or Obama, it's about the provable bias by the media which you continue to ignore no matter how much evidence is presented to you.

I didn't write an essay. I merely posted some facts backed by examples and sources which destroyed your entire, flawed argument.

What does townhall.com have to do with anything?

I've posted links to youtube with video of Obama so you could hear his own words, links to opensecrets.org which is non-partisan, UCLA which probably leans left, wikipedia, etc...

I have yet to see you do anything remotely close to that to back up any of your claims.

I could see your argument if I posted links to newsmax.com, worldnetdaily.com or other partisan, agenda driven sources but I didn't, so why the hell did you pull the townhall.com reference out of your ass?

Perhaps some vague references to "Hope" and "Change" are more your speed?

[TDE30]

Give it up, the black guy won.

[kronus]

Again, this isn't about McCain or Obama unless I'm speaking, it's about the provable by me, to myself bias by the media which you continue to ignore no matter how much wild theory and hyperbole that I attempt to pass as evidence is presented to you.

I didn't write an essay. I merely posted something that I think could possibly be construed as facts by you liberal hippie morons backed by contrived and circumstantial examples and equivalently slanted sources which destroyed your entire, flawed argument in my wet dream last night.

I have yet to see you do anything remotely close to that.

Perhaps some vague promises of "Hope" and "Change" are more your speed. Oh man, that was a zinger. I bet your balls shriveled up in pain and/or arousal when you read that. Mmm...

[kronus]

I could see your argument if I posted links to newsmax.com, worldnetdaily.com or other partisan, agenda driven sources but I didn't, so why the hell did you pull the townhall.com reference out of your ass?

Maybe check your own link to Obama's counterfeit birth certificate? (it's polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/22/obamas_born_conspiracy_obamas_bogus_birth_certific ate_exposed%21.thtml) ;)