Holy F-ing North Korea!

[deutschman]

If another war that we would most certainly be involved in because of all of our commitments to protect different countries around the world gets started where would you suppose we are are going to get all the troops to do the fighting? The government doesn't have the Selective Service for nothing.

yeah. i know i have a draft card. how about you guys?

[madformx5]

If another war that we would most certainly be involved in because of all of our commitments to protect different countries around the world gets started where would you suppose we are are going to get all the troops to do the fighting? The government doesn't have the Selective Service for nothing.

There is not going to be a draft you idiots.

[deutschman]

yeah i think that nk needs to suffer some harsh consequences for their actions. they need to know that their actions will not be tolerated. the thing is that all these un sections and stuff do not work. they have already be sectioned to hell and back and it is not like the un can deprive them of much more.
as far as their military power. they have the 4th largest military in the world. the thing is that they are very very short on fuel, and they have been so short on money that they have spent almost no money on updating their military. they may have troops, but they are stuck in the stone age.
i do not think that china or russia would back them if it came to a military conflict. nk is not worth enough to russia and china. the west and russia and china do billions of $ in trade every year. that fact + the fact that it would spark possible military action against their countries will stop russia and china from doing anything.
if nk does start a military conflict i have no doubt that there will be a draft. if there is, i am volunteering. no one drafts me ;)

[mrsleeve]

Josh I see we are in agreement on something

[joshh]

I just hope people actually realize that WW is still a possibility even these days. With or without nukes.

[mrsleeve]

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Do you recall you history


Department of defence records say 326,863 troops were in S K in 1953

Current Iraq Debockel 2005 170,000 is US troops "peek deployment there"

afghanistan IIRC is about 34,000

thats over 100,000 fighting men short of the just what was in Korea the 1st time and it was a fairly small scale war the 1st time! Hell in Vietnam in 68 we had 550,000 in theater then. All branches of the military are short on bodies right now with our current obligations. How do we know this, because we have reserve units that have been called up and had their active missions in theater extended to some time double the initial marching orders, also because the DOD has said "we dont have all the man power we would like to have"

We dont have the capacity to fight a huge conventional style war on that scale with the current all volunteer forces we have. Plus look at much of our equipment thats sitting back here in the states in a depot waiting on refit because of their tours in the sand box and the sand eating the equipment.


there are lots of reasons we know we are short on bodies

[rockchic22]

To who ever said there wont be a draft, thats BS as well, we have 2 wars going on right now, all branches are short on people, we get into a ground pissing match with N K you bet there will be a draft to fill all those spots.

How do you know we're short on people?

[mrsleeve]

they why the hate for the fair and balanced fox news :D


seriously if you are here because you dont like where you came from, they why support policy, and candidates, networks the promote and wish to turn this country into where you left???????

I mean Fox is guilty of spinning things as well, but no where the degree of and the amount of Bull Shit that comes outta MSNBC CNN CBS an all the others.


You arent like holmes and get you news form Al Jerzza (sp) are you????

Sorry for the OT guys

Yes N K is posturing but that is not the point, when you have this going on there needs penalties, so far all they have gotten is a multi billion dollar care packages to get them to stop. We have tried the carrot its now time for the stick approach.

To who ever said there wont be a draft, thats BS as well, we have 2 wars going on right now, all branches are short on people, we get into a ground pissing match with N K you bet there will be a draft to fill all those spots. The thing is China knows they cant back N K much longer due to the fact that they are tied to the western worlds hip for their economy. But if we to ground with N K there is still a good chance we will get our asses handed to us because the Chinese will be involved, and we have taught them how too and sent them all the tech to manufacture on the same or greater level then we can.

[deutschman]

all thought the though of a country like north korea having nuclear weapons is a frightening, many people such as U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates think that these actions by nk are just the death throws a dieing dictatorship and that Kim Jong-il is just trying to make the country look strong to the world and his people before he passes the torch to one of his sons.
of cores this is just speculation at this point, but so is everything ells because no one but Kim Jong-il really knows what he is planning.
nk is not the only country that worries me. when it comes to nukes iran and pakistan worry me just as much. pakistan more so then iran because they have a huge problem with the taliban taking over parts of the country right now.

[etxxz]

i was wrong in what i said about energy as i just found out... but you could say i am from a country with recent socialistic tendencies and that's why i left.

[mrsleeve]

no. i don't agree with what their doing and i don't want anyone to have any bombs specially hot headed people like yourself. the program is about energy, they weren't allowed to fully develop it so now this. usa tried to help, then backed off, but nobody talks about that just 'omg wmd.s lets bomb their asses'.. you probably base your existance on fox news. your a fucking tool.

By this and your 1st post I take it you are from a way more socialistic country???? I suggest you take it upon your self to learn some history, of both the USA and the rest of the world.


That last post made my head hurt, and I still have no idea WTF you are trying to get across.

[netcsk]

no. i don't agree with what their doing and i don't want anyone to have any bombs specially hot headed people like yourself. the program is about energy, they weren't allowed to fully develop it so now this. usa tried to help, then backed off, but nobody talks about that just 'omg wmd.s lets bomb their asses'.. you probably base your existance on fox news. your a fucking tool.

I feel dumber now.
What is your first language?

[Vrbovan]

fuken americans... no matter what you do they won't stop those programs. let them develop their technology... all the crap on the TV and what you call "news" is 90% bullshit it pisses me off to watch news in this country.

WTF???? Why should we let them have Nukes??? are you fucked in the head? Russia and China (N. Korea's closest friends) DONT like whats happening!!! They dont want then to have nukes... so why should the west be any different???

And you're pissing me off... I'm a fucking American and as long as we drop a bomb on you ass I'll be happy... fucking tool

[kimmelks]

[combustion325ix]

Actually if we went full on war more than likely we would have to impose a draft. With troops in the middle east already we would have to leave many there and move troops to N. Korea. I don't feel it will escalate to this "well hope and pray not." Why does he have his panties in a bunch for us anyway? Cause we retaliated against the middle eastern militia? Or was it because we took down his buddy Saddam?