tuition through the millitary.

[Alkasquawlik]

tuitions 8k/yr

I think it's more along the lines of 7k/quarter

[delfin]

ROTC pays your whole tuition and actually pays you a stipend every month for food etc so you don't need to work. Different branches give different amounts of money for school. Only one I know for sure is that the Air Force will give you your degree for free through the community college of the air force and then give you money for college once you discharge. Amount is based on time in service and other factors. If you want to be an officer they'll pay your way anywhere you want to go that has ROTC after your initial enlistment.

[BakesE30]

Army ROTC. They pick up the tab for my tuition, 600 per semester for books and 450 stipend each month during the school year. On the flip side I will serve for 4 years, but as a 2nd lieu. PM me for details

ps - recruiters will straight up lie, be extremely careful if you decide to go the enlisted route

[Eric]

i would love to get my education while serving, i just dont completely understand how that works, by that i mean are the courses supplied or would it be going to another school. (starting to get the ideal its completely dependent on what i choose.)regardless, i would love to be a pilot. tuition however scared me away. i would even love to be in the flight control tower. i was initially thinking electrical engineering due to being in a trade school in HS and enjoying my trade. from what i understand i would need to take the asvab and see what i am qualified for. with distractions being few and far i wouldn't have an issue committing to higher education especially knowing how rewarding it will be especially with little cost occured...

Ok, your getting alot of miss information here, my guess is from a recruiter doing his used car salesman bit trying to get you to enlist. there are recruiters for enlisted as well as recruiters for officers, be sure to talk to both.

I'm pretty sure all branches are like this, but my experience is specifically from the Air Force... and i think most of it is correct.

1. If you want to get your education while serving, that means you will join as enlisted. after enlisting you must complete boot camp, then tech school (6 weeks - 18 months depending on your AFSC) then once you arrive at your permanent duty station, you must complete your CDC's (career development course) and 15 months of OJT (On the Job Training) before your free to start college classes. if you are lucky and have a cool supervisor, then they can allow you to start classes early especially if you bust out your CDC's fast. Throw in Leave, TDY's, AEF rotations every 18 months and it can quicly become 4 years before you even start to think about college. if you want to just do 4 years and bounce, then you will leave the military with a set of job skills that probably dont' apply to the real world, and your 4 years behind the curve on your buddies who have been boozing away at college.

2. in the air force we have the CCAF, or Community College of the Air Force. A lot of the training in the air force applies to your CCAF like boot camp (PE) Tech School (technical education), ALS (management) FTD's (program electives). you can CLEP the rest of the courses required for the CCAF and get a free 2 year degree with hardly any effort.
On the other hand you can take real college classes if your supervisor allows you to. TA (tuition assistance) will pay for up to $4.5K a year, or about 8 classes if you go with the on base colleges (maryland, pheonix, AMU, EAU)

3. to be a pilot you must be an officer, unless you want to be a helicopter pilot for the army. If that interest you I would check out the high school to flight school program. Air traffic controller is an enlisted job, which requires no after high school education besides what the military will teach you.

4. ASVAB is for enlisted. AFOQT is for officer.



If i could go back 10 years, i wouldn't dick around with community college, trade school (A&P), oddball worthless jobs, running a small business, and living in a shack. I wouldn't fuck with the academy, much harder work for the same end result. I would have gone straight to ROTC, bust my ass in college, had ROTC pay for all my school, and pay for summer fun trips to Germany, japan, or Qatar so i could walk around in a bag with some hot chicks and think I'm important. I would graduate college with a guaranteed job for a few years, a free piece of paper with my name on it, and shiny things on my collar that make me think I'm smarter than everybody else.




edit: with all that boo hooing above, i want you to know that enlisted isn't all that bad. As i type this now, i sit in a beautiful home at the edge of a hill with a 100 degree view of about 50km. I have heated floors, a patio, a balcony, floor to ceiling windows that i watch the sunset every night and a spacious garage. all of whitch the air force pays my monthly rent. I've traveled to 11 European countries, met the secretary of the air force, 3 American ambassadors, 10 senators and most importantly Sabine Schmidt. Speaking of her, I live 35 minutes from the nurburgring, which with my steady income i can buy a year pass and hopefully one day drive me E30 up there for a good fun time (my wifes 08 GTi works OK for now). Last week the air force PAID ME MONEY to go to Paris for 3 days and do 15 minutes worth of work. The air force has also paid me to walk the beaches of Normandy, visit Patten's grave, and swim in the Persian gulf. Besides my actual duty job, i thoroughly enjoy the air force.

[decay]

ps - recruiters will straight up lie, be extremely careful if you decide to go the enlisted route

yeah, i was going to say... trying to get a recruiter to tell you about the GI bill is like asking a car salesman what kind of insurance coverage to get. it's not his job to know that; he just wants you to sign on the line.

the new GI bill is actually pretty nice. basically it's a sliding scale that starts being worthwhile at about 60% for a year of active duty time up to 100% for 3 years+. (time spent at basic/MOS schools does not count towards that.) the max amount depends on what state your college is in, and is based on how much it costs to go to the most expensive state school in your state.

you also get a housing stipend based on the same percentage of whatever E5+dependents BAH is for your chosen school's zipcode. depending on where you live, this can be a considerable chunk of change- in my case, 60% of E5+dep BAH for los angeles plus the $350/mo kicker i have in my enlistment contract is almost $1600/mo.

there are also a couple other stipends for books and such, but i don't remember what they are off the top of my head.

important note- if you're going to use it to go to an out-of-state school, make sure they will accept you as an in-state student otherwise GI bill is not going to come close to covering tuition.

ROTC can make it more attractive, but i don't plan on sticking around long enough to make that commitment, and i'm more of a "have-job-aptitude" type than an "enjoy-sitting-in-meetings" type.

[Midnight Sun]

Just remember.

VA Benefits will count against any Federal Aid you are eligible for.

DO NOT talk to recruiters, most of them do not know how benefits work. They arent misleading you, they just don't know how it works. Your best bet is to talk to the financial aid office of potential schools you plan on going to.

There is a lot of random red tape. Such as, in California if you plan on going to a private university you are ineligible for any Veteran's Benefits.

It also depends on what GI plan you are on. Post 9/11, Montogery, REAP.

Just my 2 cents

[straight6pwr]

My roommate is doing the Navy ROTC program. I think he only has to pay for books and room/board during his 4 years of school. The Navy takes care of the rest. He also gets a stipend. We both go to UC Davis where the tuition is roughly 22k a year and I think the Navy pays about half of that. I'll ask him more about it later tonight.

my brother is in the NROTC and got in for officer training as well. they are covering his 22k per semester bill + stipend.

[M-technik-3]

There's 3 ways you can go about becoming an officer, and all of them have varying degrees of tuition assistance.

1. Academy. It's fairly competitive, I didn't get in the first time I applied. In the Navy at least, it also incurs an extra year of commitment afterwards.

2. ROTC. As I understand it, they'll cover up to $15,000/semester, plus odds and ends, and I've heard there's ways of getting more if you need it for tuition.

3. OCS. I'm least familiar with this route, but I'v heard that you can sign up for it after your sophmore year, and get school paid for plus a salary, just to go to school. You go through OCS after that, and get your commission 96 fun-filled days afterward.

All of these are fairly competitive, however. I'm not too familiar with non-officer schooling, I'd go talk to your recruiter and see what he says for enlisted opportunities. I know Yan-3 is enlisted in the Air Force and is currently at Defense Language Institute, I believe. Just gather as much as you can before setting your sights on something.

More than just that there is bootstrap, Deserving Airman, there is the few other obscure programs as well.

As mentioned USAF has about 7 enlisted flying positions. Stewards for VP jets, Comm/scope dopes on J stars and C130 AWACs, Flight Engineers on C130's and C5's, Load Master on all cargo jets which is the job I do. 13 plus years now. Boomer on C130's and KC10 and KC135's, Aerial Gunners on MH53 and Osprey's, And Enlisted postion on the Black Hawks and Osprey for misc.

We have alot of flight duties, and enlisted flyers usd to operate the MQ1 predator drones before pilots were forced to take the positions. What ticks me off is the operate the drones from Cheech and get paid CZT pay and go home after an 8 hour day where I work a 23:45hr day when we go fly.

[decay]

VA Benefits will count against any Federal Aid you are eligible for.

really. i did not know that. so using post-9/11 GI Bill basically makes you ineligible for FAFSA, because it's likely to be more than you can get from FAFSA in the first place?