Obama: 6 month report card

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  • blunttech
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    Originally posted by Leaf
    Thank gowd Obama won cuz Palin would have been just a dyke and quit followed by Mccain having a stroke.

    Bama will win the next election.

    leave the midwest at once

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by kronus
    If she does, we are doomed.

    The problem is, and has always been, that trying to get anything accomplished in politics is a quagmire. Sure, when you're a candidate, you can talk about how much you want to change everything for the better. However, when you actually get to the captain's chair, you find yourself surrounded by people that have gotten used to the current system and learned how to take advantage of it for their own benefit. People like that won't change because of someone's altruistic values/hopes/dreams, unfortunately. This is ESPECIALLY true during a party switch after a 2-term presidency, obviously.

    Obama is probably trying to do so many things in an effort to get at least a few of them funcitonal.
    A correlation I've found from the hardcore liberals that I'm friends with are that they are pushing the blame away from Obama towards Congress. Like I stated earlier, Congress and the entire political system is fucked up, but Obama does have a majority in the House and Senate, and brought a whole new Cabinet in with him. Makes you wonder since he has all the tools he needs with him to do the job..

    Originally posted by Leaf
    Thank gowd Obama won cuz Palin would have been just a dyke and quit followed by Mccain having a stroke.

    Bama will win the next election.
    Thanks for your valid post and observations.
    You say all my posts are just random bits of BS

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  • Leaf
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    Thank gowd Obama won cuz Palin would have been just a dyke and quit followed by Mccain having a stroke.

    Bama will win the next election.

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  • kronus
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    I bet Palin could beat him.
    If she does, we are doomed.

    The problem is, and has always been, that trying to get anything accomplished in politics is a quagmire. Sure, when you're a candidate, you can talk about how much you want to change everything for the better. However, when you actually get to the captain's chair, you find yourself surrounded by people that have gotten used to the current system and learned how to take advantage of it for their own benefit. People like that won't change because of someone's altruistic values/hopes/dreams, unfortunately. This is ESPECIALLY true during a party switch after a 2-term presidency, obviously.

    Obama is probably trying to do so many things in an effort to get at least a few of them funcitonal.

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by TheEtaUnderdog
    its not free healthcare, taxes increase significantly
    Exactly, you are going to pay for it one way or the other.

    Obama's health care plan makes me sick, but I'll leave that for the other thread that is currently going on.


    Originally posted by TheEtaUnderdog
    we could actually DO something. This is supposed to be a country of the people, not of the Obamer
    What can we do? We were given the choice of who we wanted to lead our country and Obama won the election, carried into the White House by ignorant voters who were swayed by his eloquent speeches and personality, not by his actual agenda (Kennedy/Nixon anyone?). Now we're paying the price.

    I used to think that Obama would sweep through his first term and win the next election easily, but right now, I'm not so sure. I bet Palin could beat him.
    Last edited by Alkasquawlik; 07-28-2009, 07:51 AM.

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  • TheEtaUnderdog
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    its not free healthcare, taxes increase significantly

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  • fiftytakedowns
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    Originally posted by TheEtaUnderdog
    we could actually DO something. This is supposed to be a country of the people, not of the Obamer
    qft

    I been in sweden for a little while now, and the ghigher standard of living, happier people, and other little things points that the gov' they got here should be a good example to follow.

    free heathcare ftw

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  • h0lmes
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    You're the resident liberal here, so how do you feel about the original question? I'm assuming you voted for him, so have your feelings changed?
    I have never been very fond of Obama and I voted for him mainly because he was the lesser of two evils. I was skeptical of all the candidates and I purposely ignored any election talk until maybe a month before. My opinion of Obama is still the same as it has always been, skeptical but optimistic at the same time. The main problem I have with him so far is that he is trying to do to much. I think he would be much better off if he focused his energy on one project at a time and covered all the appropriate bases and ended up with a polished product. Between the stimulus, GM bankruptcy, Afghanistan, health care, etc. Everything he has touched seems to be half assed. But oh well, things would not have been better with McCain or any other politician for that matter. This country has been heading down the shitter since the 60's, and neither the democrats nor republicans are doing anything to stop it.

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  • ACMF74
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    Originally posted by h0lmes
    i don't even care, seriously. Mccain would have been just as bad. All politicians are douchebags, no matter what side of the aisle they are on.
    +1

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  • TheEtaUnderdog
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    we could actually DO something. This is supposed to be a country of the people, not of the Obamer

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by wildstoats
    This is nothing new. This practice has been business as usual on Capitol Hill for at least 9-10 years now as far as I can tell. No one read the last stimulus bill either in fact. It's deplorable, considering that is really Congress's only job. Oh wait, no, that's begging for corporate handouts and elbowing each other for more political clout, my bad.
    Congress is obviously a huge part of the problem too.

    Originally posted by h0lmes
    I don't even care, seriously. McCain would have been just as bad. All politicians are douchebags, no matter what side of the aisle they are on.
    You're the resident liberal here, so how do you feel about the original question? I'm assuming you voted for him, so have your feelings changed?

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  • h0lmes
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    I don't even care, seriously. McCain would have been just as bad. All politicians are douchebags, no matter what side of the aisle they are on.

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  • wildstoats
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    I totally agree with the conservative commentators on wondering why Obama is trying to get his health care bill passed by August. With something this big and important, shouldn't we take our time and look things over carefully?
    This is nothing new. This practice has been business as usual on Capitol Hill for at least 9-10 years now as far as I can tell. No one read the last stimulus bill either in fact. It's deplorable, considering that is really Congress's only job. Oh wait, no, that's begging for corporate handouts and elbowing each other for more political clout, my bad.

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  • wildstoats
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    1 TRILLION DOLLARS was printed a few months ago deflating the value of the dollar and holding the potential to cause massive inflation
    I almost stopped reading after this. I was laughing too hard.
    Last edited by wildstoats; 07-28-2009, 06:02 AM.

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  • gwb72tii
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    does anyone still think he's a moderate?

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