Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car

[gwb72tii]

Ok so your going to tell me the old 14mpg average cars that are now junked and replaced by 20+mpg cleaner burning cars makes no impact? No matter how miniscule the amount it is less so just STFU. If your so smart wtf are you doing about it?

you need to remember the carbon released in the manufacture of a new car, from iron ore mining to steel smelting to oil into plastics production etc

you want to be green? forget the cash to clunkers BS that did nothing but move economic activity forward at the expense of economic activity later. buy a used car or keep the clunker.

[kishg]

Forget C4C We are entering very scary times...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5d...layer_embedded

tin foil hat on and heading down to nukulear bunker right now..

[gwb72tii]

"Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car"

Hey VDubin, as you seem to excell in calculation, can you tell us how much sending troups to Iraq and Afghanistan has cost per capita. Another price that was paid is the human lives. How much was that other cost?

its not your fight

[Massive Lee]

"Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car"

Hey VDubin, as you seem to excell in calculation, can you tell us how much sending troups to Iraq and Afghanistan has cost per capita. Another price that was paid is the human lives. How much was that other cost?

[Dyno4mance]

Forget C4C We are entering very scary times...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40&feature=player_embedded

[kishg]

I am no fan of C4C, but let's clear the air a little:

1. It was never intended as a green program. It was clearly a life vest to domestic auto
2. The Edmunds "analysis" is based on what-if analysis, which is hokey
3. It did spur Q3 GDP and kept at least some jobs from being lost in the auto sector
4. It pales in comparison to the $500k/soldier we'll need to spend to add troops to Afghanistan

So clearly while it is a very tactical shot in the arm that may not yield much in the way of long term sustainability in the auto sector, we can clearly find worse ways to spend money. I find it funny that the so called fiscal conservatives never criticize the obscene expenditure that this administration is making on foreign wars but harps on these?

[Under_Pressure]

Im no hippie beleve me I would not want Florida to get emmisions again, I wouldnt be able to build my cars. I just wanted to get my .2 in and thats all.

[blunttech]

i believe this makes me a tree hugging green hippy as anything i drive i transplant a more modern efficient motor into it. im lessening my carbon footprint by slapping an s14 in my 02.
eat a co2 laden dick

[dinanm3atl]

Ok so your going to tell me the old 14mpg average cars that are now junked and replaced by 20+mpg cleaner burning cars makes no impact? No matter how miniscule the amount it is less so just STFU. If your so smart wtf are you doing about it?

I guess it makes some 'feel' better which is what the green movement is all about isn't it?

Going from 14 to 20mpg? Who cares. That is a drop in a 55 gallon drum. You take someone that was driving a 'clunker' and consider the car is worth LESS than 4500 dollars. Do you believe that they should take the 4500, grab a car payment? Keep in mind a loan REQUIRES full coverage insurance. So you have to consider that as well. Did they have full coverage on their clunker before?

Do you remember what got us here? Government promoting giving those that cannot and should not home loans... but hell yes let's get some people home loans and now give away taxpayer money to fund SOMEONE ELSE getting a new car.

Sure does make you 'feel' good doesn't it? Remove many good used cars and trash their motors. Don't let someone buy the running motor to swap into a car that needs a motor. Carbon to crush cars, carbon to transport clunkers, carbon to build a new car(that is crappy and might last 100K) and more carbon to transport new cars to dealers... should we go on?

[TDE30]

To each there own but this always falls true keep politics and religion to oneself.

So you are wrong?

Because I always thought just walking outside and lighting my car on fire would benefit future generations. Could I be wrong?!?!

[Under_Pressure]

To each there own but this always falls true keep politics and religion to oneself.

[StereoInstaller1]

McCain and his Harvard grad VP done any better, who knows?

I LOL'd

[TDE30]

Ok so your going to tell me the old 14mpg average cars that are now junked and replaced by 20+mpg cleaner burning cars makes no impact? No matter how miniscule the amount it is less so just STFU. If your so smart wtf are you doing about it?

So you think that the complete destruction of a working, running automobile is "green" decision? You must also think that nobody on this planet may have wanted or needed that "clunker"?

Do you also believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus as well?




Note: I'm not jumping on E30Cabrio and (ctrl+V)edubin's "WARARAAAAGHHH, THE (dot) GOVERNMENTTT!!!" bandwagon, but I do think the C4C program was a poor decision to jumpstart the economy. Could McCain and his Harvard grad VP done any better, who knows?

[Under_Pressure]

This thread is retarded, and you fit in quite nicely here.

Ok so your going to tell me the old 14mpg average cars that are now junked and replaced by 20+mpg cleaner burning cars makes no impact? No matter how miniscule the amount it is less so just STFU. If your so smart wtf are you doing about it?

[kishg]

wow the population of tool bags and Hippie dip shits around here increase exponentially every week.

agree.. god knows there were enough tools here to begin with..