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  • Raxe
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2006
    • 5346

    #31
    I don't agree with the death penalty either. Suicide is the cowards way out, how is the death penalty much different?

    Solitary confinement is where it's at.

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    • SpecM
      R3V Elite
      • Oct 2005
      • 4531

      #32
      Originally posted by mar1t1me

      I do find it confusing how many people who are rabidly anti-abortion are pro-capital punishment. So much for "Choose Life".
      Well, there is a difference in killing convicted murderers, and killing innocent babies, ya know
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      • TexasTerp
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jan 2009
        • 3541

        #33
        Originally posted by SpecM
        Well, there is a difference in killing convicted murderers, and killing innocent babies, ya know
        you clearly have a compromised view of the sanctity of life. a life is a life, regardless of whether it is in the womb or in a jail cell. there is no difference between killing a baby and killing a murderer. killing is killing, period, end of story. The only difference is your rationalization based on illogical reasoning and emotion, nothing else.
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        • Dillinger
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2009
          • 285

          #34
          Originally posted by TexasTerp
          you clearly have a compromised view of the sanctity of life. a life is a life, regardless of whether it is in the womb or in a jail cell. there is no difference between killing a baby and killing a murderer. killing is killing, period, end of story. The only difference is your rationalization based on illogical reasoning and emotion, nothing else.
          There is no way you are a Texan.

          But I am against the death penalty myself.

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          • Massive Lee
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2006
            • 6782

            #35
            Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
            That argument could be made for EVERY murderer since no sane person should be out killing people.
            You are correct. Which is probably why fewer and fewer countries still support death penality.
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            • kishg
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              • Sep 2006
              • 2624

              #36
              Originally posted by Dillinger
              There is no way you are a Texan.
              he moved to MD :)
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              • z31maniac
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Dec 2007
                • 17566

                #37
                Originally posted by Massive Lee
                You are correct. Which is probably why fewer and fewer countries still support death penality.
                It's because of all these feel-good, limp wristed, namby pamby's taking over the world.

                If you willfully take someone's life you do not deserve to live, IMHO. Not to mention soak up outrageous amounts of resources to support you for life, while we have starving children/working poor/etc.

                I haven't done the research, I will when I get home, but isn't the avg cost to hold a prisoner in a federal prison something like $45k a year? Or $10k+ more than the avg income in the country? And most receive 3 squares a day, cable TV, etc etc etc.
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                • Ryan Stewart
                  I Love Miatas
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8978

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Raxe
                  I don't agree with the death penalty either. Suicide is the cowards way out, how is the death penalty much different?

                  Solitary confinement is where it's at.
                  I dont want it for some sort of justice or punishment. I want it to get rid of the fucker. You CANT release them to society ever so your only choice is to support the fucker if you dont off them.

                  Its like destroying a dog that attacks someone. Its not because we are punishing the dog. Its to remove the dog as a threat.
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                  • aaron325ix
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1489

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
                    I dont want it for some sort of justice or punishment. I want it to get rid of the fucker. You CANT release them to society ever so your only choice is to support the fucker if you dont off them.

                    Its like destroying a dog that attacks someone. Its not because we are punishing the dog. Its to remove the dog as a threat.
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                    • thereisnoyun
                      R3VLimited
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2301

                      #40
                      what gets me more mad... is like stated above... we paid for him to stay in prison with state and tax paper money for how long? to get a judgement to excute him? what a waste of resources. Those money could be spend on educating kids and buying books for kids. any other country he woudl have "accidentally" died in a car accident, if it was they were politically correct.

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                      • Massive Lee
                        R3V OG
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 6782

                        #41
                        Ah, ah. We're not the first, nor the last to discuss death penality.

                        Is it a punishment or is it a way to remove from society?
                        If it is to remove from the society? Then why not put in jail instead of death senstence.
                        Then some people will say that death sentence is inhuman, and that jail should be more human. Is 50 years in jail really more human?
                        If people go to jail, can they de reeducated then? Can 100% of criminals be reeducated? What about the 1% that can't? What happens if they are released?

                        Not an easy choice. Not to forget the costs. But hey. Life (or death) has no cost equivalent.
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                        • ACMF74
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1245

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Massive Lee
                          Ah, ah. We're not the first, nor the last to discuss death penality.

                          Is it a punishment or is it a way to remove from society?
                          If it is to remove from the society? Then why not put in jail instead of death senstence.
                          Then some people will say that death sentence is inhuman, and that jail should be more human. Is 50 years in jail really more human?
                          If people go to jail, can they de reeducated then? Can 100% of criminals be reeducated? What about the 1% that can't? What happens if they are released?

                          Not an easy choice. Not to forget the costs. But hey. Life (or death) has no cost equivalent.
                          It's both a punishment and to remove the POS from the earth.

                          A life sentence is a waste of resources and TAX payer money. All The money being spent on criminals that can't be rehabilitated should go to schools, Charities...or whatever....Not housing an animal.

                          Rapist, molesters, murders, etc etc deserve death.

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                          • TexasTerp
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3541

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Dillinger
                            There is no way you are a Texan.
                            Originally posted by kishg
                            he moved to MD :)
                            HAHAHA!!! I love it when people expect me to be some ignorant hick! lmao. Although I have nothing to prove, the great part is I'm a born and raised, Conservative Catholic Texan. I drive a truck, I own 5 rifles and 2 shotguns, I worked on a farm, and I wear my boots and cowboy hat more often than anything else.

                            The irony is I moved up to Maryland for my Masters degree and being an opera singer I'm the only Conservative in my class. The downside is that more than 75% of my industry is liberal and I'll easily say that being up here I have never met so many politically uneducated and ignorant people in my life (and I come from Texas!!! AND Lived in New Orleans!!!) - not talking about you Kishg, we've actually had a pretty good conversation on healthcare in the other thread.

                            Originally posted by z31maniac
                            It's because of all these feel-good, limp wristed, namby pamby's taking over the world.

                            I haven't done the research, I will when I get home, but isn't the avg cost to hold a prisoner in a federal prison something like $45k a year? Or $10k+ more than the avg income in the country? And most receive 3 squares a day, cable TV, etc etc etc.
                            cut that middle section out (i did it for you) and you actually have a real argument. I say we go back to the Alcatraz style of imprisonment, fuck all this being taken care of bullshit. Prison should be about suffering, not babysitting. Cut out all that bullshit extraneous crap like cable and leave them with books, and hard labor. prisoners live better than a lot of people in this country, make it something worth fearing again!!!
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                            • Dillinger
                              Wrencher
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 285

                              #44
                              I hear that it costs more to execute someone than to keep them for life.

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                              • dirty30
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 3005

                                #45
                                Originally posted by TexasTerp
                                Thanks for letting me know I'm an anti-death penalty waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles, glad to know you're an "eye for an eye Bigot", guess what you ignorant dumb fuck, being Pro-Life isn't limited to abortions and the Terri Schiavo's of the world. (yeah this is coming from a Conservative who's state put in an express lane, so fuck off)
                                I knew the maggots would surface for this one. Let me get this straight:

                                Your people want this guy to live out his life, on our tax dollars in a state prison. A trained sniper/ serial killer that cost 13 people their lives and affected the daily routines of tens of thousands of people for weeks. A serial killer that laughed as he blew the brains out of innocent people just living their lives... BUT I'm sure your basing most of this on religion anyways SOOOOOOOOO.......... there's a whole other problem in itself.

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