4 police officers shot/killed in coffee shop near mchord AFB.

[FredK]

welcome h0lme

[dvs909]

whoa whoa whoa.... so its all about timing? you obviously agree he deserves to die, but only if its cheap? executing a person like this doesn't bring us to their level, it shows that as a society we will not tolerate the murder of 4 innocent officers.

[LBJefferies]

I comprehend you just backed CCW's. I thought you were an anti-gun nutjob.

The problem is that a lot of you guys assume that anyone who tries to argue against what you have to say is a liberal and all liberals believe the same things. I never said I was anti gun.

[LBJefferies]

whoa whoa whoa.... so its all about timing? you obviously agree he deserves to die, but only if its cheap? executing a person like this doesn't bring us to their level, it shows that as a society we will not tolerate the murder of 4 innocent officers.

Did you even read what I said? I said that killing this asshole would have been justified if it would have prevented further deaths, i.e. some or all of the officers. Now that it can no longer prevent the deaths of the officers, it is no longer justified.

[dvs909]

Did you even read what I said? I said that killing this asshole would have been justified if it would have prevented further deaths, i.e. some or all of the officers. Now that it can no longer prevent the deaths of the officers, it is no longer justified.

yes it IS still justified. he MURDERED 4 officers. You cannot say that its justified at one point but not at another. either it is justified the whole time or none of the time.

and our society doesn't condemn killing, we condemn murder.

[Leaf]

Boh boh boh boh boh!

[Farbin Kaiber]

The problem is that a lot of you guys assume that anyone who tries to argue against what you have to say is a liberal and all liberals believe the same things. I never said I was anti gun.

O.k., point taken, you are not anti-gun. Maybe I can make it up to you with a bongload?

[mrsleeve]

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dammit farbin

Now Have to clean all the apple pie outta my lap top.


LB: I suggest you shut up now you are looking like an idiot again

[FredK]

O.k., point taken, you are not anti-gun. Maybe I can make it up to you with a bongload?

Farbin's JONESIN!

He's probably smoked every single piece of vegetation on his property in hopes it will put him in an altered state of mind.

:p

[LBJefferies]

You cannot say that its justified at one point but not at another.

YES YOU CAN!!!

Killing the shooter before he killed officers is justified because it would have prevented their deaths!

Killing after the fact would not have prevented their deaths and therefore is not justified. The only purpose it serves to execute him would be as punishment and IMO I think throwing him in solitary confinment for life is a better punishment

ITS SIMPLE FUCKING LOGIC!

If you can't comprehend the point I am making then you need to go back to Kindergarten.

[dvs909]

YES YOU CAN!!!

Fucking A. Is this website just some big joke or something? Are you really that fucking retarded?

Killing the shooter before he killed officers is justified because it would have prevented their deaths!

Killing after the fact would not have prevented their deaths and therefore is not justified. The only purpose it serves to execute him would be as punishment and IMO I think throwing him in solitary confinment for life is a better punishment

ITS SIMPLE FUCKING LOGIC!

If you can't comprehend the point I am making then you need to go back to Kindergarten.

you can't kill the shooter before he killed the officers. that would be murder.

[LBJefferies]

you can't kill the shooter before he killed the officers. that would be murder.

If he raised his gun towards the officers with intent or if he shot one officer and had not yet shot the others then it is not murder

[dvs909]

your saying its ok to kill him when he hasnt hurt anyone, but its not ok to kill him after hes murdered 4 people.

no really. thats what you just said.

[mrsleeve]

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yeah but you could, if you see the gun, and especially if the guy is threatening you or others lives.

Disclaimer: Please check your local state laws as they are all different from state to state

In most states, if you have reason to fear great bodily harm or death, Deadly force to neutralize the threat is justifiable

In this case in WA state a bystander with a CCW would be fully justified in shooting this guy. I would venture to guess a person with a ccw and armed could have ended this as the shooter was preoccupied with the cops (the guys he targeted and knows have guns) a person could have "gotten the drop on him" so to speak, and ended it there.

This is also a prime example why you cant rely on the cops for your safety

[LBJefferies]

your saying its ok to kill him when he hasnt hurt anyone, but its not ok to kill him after hes murdered 4 people.

no really. thats what you just said.

If someone is running towards you with a knife or is raising their gun with an intent to shoot you, are you going to wait till they hurt you or are you going to shoot them before they do? Cops take people down all the time before they have actually hurt anyone. Surely you, Mr. Conservative, wouldn't regard THIS as murder.