Obama State of the Union

[Aptyp]

^for most americans, gas is a necessity...

[ck_taft325is]

But it's not the Government's job to take care of mine on either count, isn't that right? If you want them to take over and control yours so you don't have to, that's fine. But be prepared to not eat sugar or eggs or cheese or bacon or... etc etc. Maybe they can best choose how many kids you can have? Or maybe where or when you can work and how. Before all that, they'll police what you can and cannot read. Eventually it would work it's way (obviously, with the green trend...) into what you can or cannot drive.

Apples and Oranges, sure. But they're both still fruit.

[KenC]

Gasoline is a commodity. Health/life isn't. Apples and oranges.

[E30 Cabrio]

Huh what? Who said that? A right to a low price of a limited good? Preposterous! That doesn't sound like free markets at all...

You know who subsidizes gas to make it cheap for its citizens? China.

I'm just mocking those who state that everyone should have a right to free/inexpensive health care.

Why not inexpensive gas as well like in Venezuela?

See where I'm going with this?

[mrsleeve]

40 acres and a mule, or a free all expense paid boat ride back to the home land

there fixed that for you




since when are we bringing reparations into this

[chadthestampede]

I believe Obama said that. Along with, "Every family is entitled to a place to call home" or some such...

Fixed... "Every family has the right to work towards bettering their life style and condition of living"

Or in other words, "The Pursuit of Happiness".

40 acres and a mule

[mrsleeve]

Huh what? Who said that? A right to a low price of a limited good? Preposterous! That doesn't sound like free markets at all...

You know who subsidizes gas to make it cheap for its citizens? China.

Hugo Chavez in good Venezuela

[ck_taft325is]

I believe Obama said that. Along with, "Every family is entitled to a place to call home" or some such...

Fixed... "Every family has the right to work towards bettering their life style and condition of living"

Or in other words, "The Pursuit of Happiness".

[rwh11385]

"Everyone should have the right to plentiful and inexpensive gasoline."

Huh what? Who said that? A right to a low price of a limited good? Preposterous! That doesn't sound like free markets at all...

You know who subsidizes gas to make it cheap for its citizens? China.

[E30 Cabrio]

"Everyone should have the right to plentiful and inexpensive gasoline."

[E30 Cabrio]

Gotta make up for lost time...

The Pew (PEJ) report for the 2008 election cycle is out.

Among the findings?

FOXNEWS provided the most balanced cable coverage of the 2008 presidential election among major news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS) and likely the most balanced of all six outlets (NBC, CBS, ABC included), although they oddly didnt release the latter three network's numbers. Keep in mind, while Pew bills itself as Independent, it certainly leans to the left, which is probably why they didn't release all the numbers. God forbid they stated Fox News was the most fair of any television network, as it's doubtful any network bested the Fox numbers below since the Fox positive/negative are almost a perfect match. Interestingly, while they released the numbers for MSNBC and FOX, they didnt release individual CNN numbers, choosing to say it closely reflected the "Total Coverage" numbers below, putting it somewhere between MSNBC and FOX.

The Best (least biased) and the Worst (most biased) news coverage?

BEST (FOXNEWS)
Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%
Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

WORST (MSNBC)
Positive Obama Stories 73%
Positive McCain Stories 10%
Negative Obama Stories 14%
Negative McCain Stories 43%

TOTAL COVERAGE (all media added together - 2,412 stories from 48 outlets)
Positive Obama Stories 36%
Positive McCain Stories 14%
Negative Obama Stories 29%
Negative McCain Stories 57%

Source: Pew Research.

Perhaps FNC isn't "right wing"
Perhaps the rest of the MSM is so far left-of-center, that by comparison, FNC is right in the middle.

At least that's what the 2008 election coverage says.

[kronus]

BAM! E30 Cabrio realizes that he missed an OT thread about politics and attempts to take up the slack by posting EVERYTHING AT ONCE! The crowd goes wild!

in before he claims that my observation of his actions constitutes an admission that I have nothing constructive to refute his claims with, therefore he must be right.

[E30 Cabrio]

One more on FNC...

Watch Roger Ailes toy with the lefties attacking his network, FNC:



Wait until "The Boy Blunder" in the WH sees this.

[E30 Cabrio]

Im not saying you're wrong or right but how does opinion constitute 'fair and balanced'?

Perhaps you need some more evidence and more convincing?

Campaign donations, 2008:


$297,187 was given by people who identified their occupation as "journalist"


$22,076 from 28 people to Republicans.
$275,111 from 312 people to Democrats.

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?newest=1&type=occ&occ=journalist&search=Search

In addition to:
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox...ter_print.html


http://www.journalism.org/node/13436#fn1 (Pew)

http://www.journalism.org/node/13307 (Pew)


http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=B02

http://www.opensecrets.org/industrie...goButt2=Submit

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...UCLA-6664.aspx

18 of the top 20 media outlets lean left.
(UCLA Media study)

70% of MSM campaign donations have gone to the Dems since 1990
(Opensecrets.org )

Fox News provided the most fair & balanced election coverage last year.
(Pew Research)

MSNBC was the most biased. (Favored Obama)
(Pew Research)

The MSM showed a bias against McCain while favoring Obama.
(Pew Research)


Fox most balanced (Forbes)



Bottom line is that FNC gave Obama and McCain the exact same coverage, with a slight edge to Obama:

Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%

Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

Meanwhile, the rest of the MSM gave Obama overwhelmingly positive coverage while giving the opposite to McCain

And, according to Gallup, 64% of the public said that the MSM are not doing a good job of holding Obama responsible for his actions:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125399/News-Media-Tepid-Ratings-Obama-Watchdog.aspx

Gallup also showed FNC to be the most balanced when it came to covering the 2008 election.

The URL I had bookmarked is 404, but a search might find it.

This is how and why FNC became the most trusted news source.
Not to mention the top rated cable news.

And note: No sourcing wing-nut, partisan, agenda-driven web sites or sources, except for HuffPo which was used to track donations by Journalists.

For those that are not intellectually lazy, I would suggest visiting each URL posted above and reading the contents from the non-biased sources as they will prove me right.

One thing about me when it comes to political debates - I never take a position or make a statement unless I have non-partisan sources to back it up.

[E30 Cabrio]

That proves nothing except how completely and utterly retarded Americans are.

Bzzzzzt!

It wouldn't have anything to do with the alphabet channels' descent into liberal hysterics. Oh no, it has to be the stupid public's inability to recognize the alphabets' "superiority" and instead flocking to the news channel that tells these intellectually lazy people how to think, right?

Wrong!