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  • Hallen
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    You don't think that a Journalism major, former Mayor, former Governor, former Chairperson of the Alaska Gas and Oil committee, highly sought after public speaker and best-selling author is incapable of writing a 12 paragraph response to the State of the Union address?

    Explain.
    Exactly.

    She did have a couple of bad interviews during the election. But the majority of the negativity about her is the fact that she is a conservative and religious female. The left hates the fact that there is a female who is actually successful in politics, smart, well educated, independent, and forceful and also isn't a feminist radical with lesbian tendencies. It just doesn't fit the mold that they expect. If a woman is a mother of more than one child, religious, conservative, eats meat (and shoots her own), and actually likes going to hockey matches, well, that woman is obviously one of those lowbrow throw-backs who has lower than average intelligence and allows herself to be dominated by men.

    So, their reaction is to ignore the facts, and force her into the mold even though she doesn't fit. The media trashes her all the time. They find sound bights and clips of her that they can exploit, and then they trash her. The most egregious are the false stories of what she said that were actually started as snide comments on liberal blogs and somehow got turned into fact. The general population just knows what they hear and that's what they have to go on. Ergo, she's an idiot and couldn't have possibly written that critique.

    Funny, but that 15 minutes of Obama stumbling without his teleprompter sure didn't see much air time. But Palin's hashed interviews got played more than Giligan's Island reruns.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by 3bvert
    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that
    You don't think that a Journalism major, former Mayor, former Governor, former Chairperson of the Alaska Gas and Oil committee, highly sought after public speaker and best-selling author is incapable of writing a 12 paragraph response to the State of the Union address?

    Explain.

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  • Ryan Stewart
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    Why? Because the MSM has convinced you otherwise?
    I voted for McCain and I think she is an idiot. Being said I dont think anyone writes/thinks for themselves. You think Obama even knows what an extemporaneous speech is? Everyone has seen the video of him attempting to give a full 15 without a teleprompter. It was brutal, even I felt bad for the guy.

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  • Hallen
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    Originally posted by mar1t1me
    I'm with ya. I've seen enough of her that I don't think that sounds like her.

    Probably had a staffer write it. 11 paragraphs that start with "He".....lol
    Most likely, she did write it, but had help. I wouldn't ever release anything for public consumption until at least one other set of eyes had seen it, edited it, and offered comments and feedback. But I don't know where you are coming from here. You may have heard her in interviews and her little cheerleader style speeches, but I doubt you have heard her offering commentary like that before. I think it sounds very much like her. Its mostly informal and conversational and hits the points that she would find important.

    If you think Obama writes his own speeches, you are a fool. That practice ended with Lincoln. He'll set the tone, but he has a whole staff of people who writes for him. That's one of the reasons his delivery was unpolished. I bet they were making changes right up to the last minute based on the feedback they were getting from the intentionally leaked content of the speech.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Funny how many people who think Palin is stupid also think that Obama is smart.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by 3bvert
    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that
    Why? Because the MSM has convinced you otherwise?

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  • Aptyp
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    The written rebuttal pretty much echos her words on live TV immediately following last nights speech, so I doubt she had someone write it for her.
    Originally posted by 3bvert
    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that
    The worst part of what she wrote, is that I read it with her voice in my head. I don't like Sarah Palin, but she's on point here. However, I still refuse to read her book.


    My favorite funny parts of the SOTU:
    1. Obama asked for bipartisanship. I thought it was hilarious for him to ask for it. He voted 95% liberal during his short time as a senator. Other 5%? Present and absent. He has never voted against his party line.

    2. He asked for government to stop frivolous spending, while having the biggest executive office in history of the US and pushes a trillion dollar healthcare bill.

    3. Transparency? Applies to everyone but himself... Only times he's transparent it seems, is when he travels to Copenhagen. Everyone watches and no one sees him.


    4. SOTU is supposed to be formal address. I didn't expect him to go Bush and teleprompter and screw up the whole thing, but at least take it seriously. Come on, man. There's place for smooth and there's place for serious conversation. Luckily, this time he wasn't heckled with "you lie", but entire country saw generals, supreme justices, and 40% of your congress shake their heads on a number of occasions. Get it together.

    "Do as I say and not as I do" come to mind.


    I still have a lot of hope. Clinton had the same rough patch with congress early in his presidency and a failed health reform. He turned it around and I think Obama can too having both Clintons and Biden on his team.

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  • mar1t1me
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    Originally posted by 3bvert
    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that
    I'm with ya. I've seen enough of her that I don't think that sounds like her.

    Probably had a staffer write it. 11 paragraphs that start with "He".....lol

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  • Hallen
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    Originally posted by mrsleeve
    Why is that??? ehhhhh Never mind, I already know your response, will be 1 of, 2 or 3 preprogramed responses that are nothing but regurgitated BS from Olberman, or Mahre.



    So am I in the ball park????
    lol, yeah but she's religious so she couldn't possibly be smart.

    I heard her comments minutes after the speech too, and this is pretty much what she said then. This was just a bit more fleshed out.

    She did miss a few things. Like the outright lie that the Obomanator is going to remove the barriers to gays joining the military. What bullshit. Gay people have served for years. To say that removing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is in some way allowing gays to serve, is horribly disingenuous.

    I'll say it again, that was the worst SOTU address I have ever heard.

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  • mrsleeve
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    Originally posted by 3bvert
    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that
    Why is that??? ehhhhh Never mind, I already know your response, will be 1 of, 2 or 3 preprogramed responses that are nothing but regurgitated BS from Olberman, or Mahre.



    So am I in the ball park????

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  • 3bvert
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    I find it hard to believe palin wrote that

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by Maluco
    what's up with this guy's response:

    Paul You should never have stolen the suggestions and writing I sent to the McCain Campaign. If you liked my work as a strategist and a speech writer, you should have hired me rather than steal the intellectual property I offered you as a work sample.

    If I were in your shoes, I would work so hard to be Romney Bitch boy......


    funny cause I was thinking to myself, how much of that did she really write herself. Good read regardless.
    The written rebuttal pretty much echos her words on live TV immediately following last nights speech, so I doubt she had someone write it for her.

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  • Maluco
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    what's up with this guy's response:

    Paul You should never have stolen the suggestions and writing I sent to the McCain Campaign. If you liked my work as a strategist and a speech writer, you should have hired me rather than steal the intellectual property I offered you as a work sample.

    If I were in your shoes, I would work so hard to be Romney Bitch boy......


    funny cause I was thinking to myself, how much of that did she really write herself. Good read regardless.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by Maluco
    source?

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  • Maluco
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    Palin's response:

    While I don’t wish to speak too harshly about President Obama’s state of the union address, we live in challenging times that call for candor. I call them as I see them, and I hope my frank assessment will be taken as an honest effort to move this conversation forward.

    Last night, the president spoke of the “credibility gap” between the public’s expectations of their leaders and what those leaders actually deliver. “Credibility gap” is a good way to describe the chasm between rhetoric and reality in the president’s address. The contradictions seemed endless.

    He called for Democrats and Republicans to “work through our differences,” but last year he dismissed any notion of bipartisanship when he smugly told Republicans, “I won.”

    He talked like a Washington “outsider,” but he runs Washington! He’s had everything any president could ask for – an overwhelming majority in Congress and a fawning press corps that feels tingles every time he speaks. There was nothing preventing him from pursuing “common sense” solutions all along. He didn’t pursue them because they weren’t his priorities, and he spent his speech blaming Republicans for the problems caused by his own policies.

    He dared us to “let him know” if we have a better health care plan, but he refused to allow Republicans in on the negotiations or consider any ideas for real free market and patient-centered reforms. We’ve been “letting him know” our ideas for months from the town halls to the tea parties, but he isn’t interested in listening. Instead he keeps making the nonsensical claim that his massive trillion-dollar health care bill won’t increase the deficit.

    Americans are suffering from job losses and lower wages, yet the president practically demanded applause when he mentioned tax cuts, as if allowing people to keep more of their own hard-earned money is an act of noblesse oblige. He claims that he cut taxes, but I must have missed that. I see his policies as paving the way for massive tax increases and inflation, which is the “hidden tax” that most hurts the poor and the elderly living on fixed incomes.

    He condemned lobbyists, but his White House is filled with former lobbyists, and this has been a banner year for K Street with his stimulus bill, aka the Lobbyist’s Full Employment Act. He talked about a “deficit of trust” and the need to “do our work in the open,” but he chased away the C-SPAN cameras and cut deals with insurance industry lobbyists behind closed doors.

    He spoke of doing what’s best for the next generation and not leaving our children with a “mountain of debt,” but under his watch this year, government spending is up by 22%, and his budget will triple our national debt.

    He spoke of a spending freeze, but doesn’t he realize that each new program he’s proposing comes with a new price tag? A spending freeze is a nice idea, but it doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. We need a comprehensive examination of the role of government spending. The president’s deficit commission is little more than a bipartisan tax hike committee, lending political cover to raise taxes without seriously addressing the problem of spending.

    He condemned bailouts, but he voted for them and then expanded and extended them. He praised the House’s financial reform bill, but where was Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in that bill? He still hasn’t told us when we’ll be getting out of the auto and the mortgage industries. He praised small businesses, but he’s spent the past year as a friend to big corporations and their lobbyists, who always find a way to make government regulations work in their favor at the expense of their mom & pop competitors.

    He praised the effectiveness of his stimulus bill, but then he called for another one – this time cleverly renamed a “jobs bill.” The first stimulus was sold to us as a jobs bill that would keep unemployment under 8%. We now have double digit unemployment with no end in sight. Why should we trust this new “jobs bill”?

    He talked about “making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development,” but apparently it’s still too tough for his Interior Secretary to move ahead with Virginia’s offshore oil and gas leases. If they’re dragging their feet on leases, how long will it take them to build “safe, clean nuclear power plants”? Meanwhile, he continued to emphasize “green jobs,” which require massive government subsidies for inefficient technologies that can’t survive on their own in the real world of the free market.

    He spoke of supporting young girls in Afghanistan who want to go to school and young women in Iran who courageously protest in the streets, but where were his words of encouragement to the young girls of Afghanistan in his West Point speech? And where was his support for the young women of Iran when they were being gunned down in the streets of Tehran?

    Despite speaking for an hour, the president only spent 10% of his speech on foreign policy, and he left us with many unanswered questions. Does he still think trying the 9/11 terrorists in New York is a good idea? Does he still think closing Gitmo is a good idea? Does he still believe in Mirandizing terrorists after the Christmas bomber fiasco? Does he believe we’re in a war against terrorists, or does he think this is just a global crime spree? Does he understand that the first priority of our government is to keep our country safe?

    In his address last night, the president once again revealed that there’s a fundamental disconnect between what the American people expect from their government, and what he wants to deliver. He’s still proposing failed top-down big government solutions to our problems. Instead of smaller, smarter government, he’s taken a government that was already too big and supersized it.

    Real private sector jobs are created when taxes are low, investment is high, and people are free to go about their business without the heavy hand of government. The president thinks innovation comes from government subsidies. Common sense conservatives know innovation comes from unleashing the creative energy of American entrepreneurs.

    Everything seems to be “unexpected” to this administration: unexpected job losses; unexpected housing numbers; unexpected political losses in Massachusetts, Virginia, and New Jersey. True leaders lead best when confronted with the unexpected. But instead of leading us, the president lectured us. He lectured Wall Street; he lectured Main Street; he lectured Congress; he even lectured our Supreme Court Justices.

    He criticized politicians who “wage a perpetual campaign,” but he gave a campaign speech instead of a state of the union address. The campaign is over, and President Obama now has something that candidate Obama never had: an actual track record in office. We now can see the failed policies behind the flowery words. If Americans feel as cynical as the president suggests, perhaps it’s because the audacity of his recycled rhetoric no longer inspires hope.

    Real leadership requires results. Real hope lies in the ingenuity, generosity, and boundless courage of the American people whose voices are still not being heard in Washington.

    - Sarah Palin
    source?

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