How did your Congressman vote on the health care bill?? The list...

[Rodoni]

fucking Ca.

[Vedubin01]

Wow, you learn something new everyday ~after a Bill is passed....

http://cfnews13.com/Education/EducationHeadlines/2010/3/22/student_loan_boost_passes_with_health_care_bill.html

Uninsured Americans were not the only ones to benefit from legislation passed Sunday night in a historically controversial vote on health care.

The U.S. House also passed a broad reorganization of college aid that increases grants for millions of students.

Passage moves President Barack Obama closer to winning yet another of his top domestic policies.

The bill, which passed on a vote of 220–211, eliminates a student loan program that relies on private financial institutions, and switches to direct government lending. The savings would pay for $36 billion in Pell Grants.

The bill also provides more than $4 billion to historically black colleges, including Bethune-Cookman University. Community colleges would also receive a share of the money.

The legislation was paired with the expedited health care bill, a marriage of convenience that helped the prospects of each measure.

The Senate will take up the measure this week.

[johnwoo]

i was reading that list too and i was very surprised at the representatives from many of traditionally conservative states voted "yes" for this bill.

this reform is a direct consequence of what happened to elections in 2008, the only way to not have this happen again is to go out and vote this fall. what is done is done can't really bitch about the past. we can only change the future....or try to at least

[sam3]

NH used to be pretty conservative, it's just a suburb of Massachusetts now.
...I hear Texas is nice....

[Maluco]

IRS agents verify if you have “acceptable” health care coverage;

IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove that you have purchased “minimum essential coverage;”

IRS can confiscate your tax refund;

IRS audits are likely to increase;

IRS will need up to $10 billion to administer the new health care program this decade;

IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans; and Nearly half of all these new individual mandate taxes will be paid by Americans earning less than 300 percent of poverty ($66,150 for a family of four.)

[Maluco]

The Republican Conference has compiled a list of important numbers relevant to Democrats' Senate bill combined with the proposed reconciliation bill.

$1.2 trillion: The total cost of the bill between 2010 and 2020 (though the real costs do not start until 2014), including $940 billion in coverage subsidies, $144.2 billion in additional mandatory spending, $70 billion in discretionary spending in the Senate bill, and $41.6 billion in unrelated education spending.

$371 billion: The cost of a ten year patch for the Sustainable Growth Rate (SGR) to prevent reduction in Medicare physician payments. This cost is hidden because it was included in the earlier Democrat bill, but was dropped to provide a better cost estimate. It is expected to move separately and would bring the true cost of the takeover to $1.57 trillion.

$569.2 billion: Tax increases in the legislation, including $48.9 billion in new tax increases in the reconciliation bill alone.

$52 billion: The amount of new taxes on employers who cannot afford to pay their employees health care, imposed at a time when unemployment is 9.7 percent.

12: The number of new tax increases in the bill that violate President Obama's pledge that, "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase."

46%: The percentage of families making less than $66,150 who will be forced to pay the individual mandate tax.

16,500: The estimated number of IRS auditors, agents and other employees that may be needed to collect the hundreds of billions in new taxes levied on the American people.

$20 billion: The estimated amount of money that the IRS and HHS will need for the cost of additional regulations, bureaucracy, and red tape over the next ten years. This spending is not included in CBO's cost estimate of H.R. 4872.

$53 billion: The amount of revenue this bill raids from Social Security to appear as if it actually reduces the deficit.

$202.3 billion: The amount of money cut from the Medicare Advantage program for seniors to help offset the costs of a new entitlement.

$436 billion: The amount of federal subsidies in the bill that will go directly to insurance companies to provide health care in the exchange.

1 out of 22: The number of times the Senate has not somehow amended a reconciliation bill passed by the House, and thus required further House action.

63%: The percentage of physicians surveyed who feel that health reform is needed, but are opposed to this sweeping overhaul legislation.

$9 billion: The amount that the Ways and Means Committee estimated Medicare would spend annually after 25 years when it was passed in 1965. In reality, Medicare spent $67 billion in 1990, or seven times the initial cost estimate.

$1.55 trillion: The projected FY 2010 deficit-11 times the ten year "savings" Democrats claim the bill will produce by spending more than $1 trillion for this government takeover of health care.

[CincinnatiKid]

I guess we shouldn't have public schools either because not everybody is entitled to an education.

[sam3]

I guess we shouldn't have public schools either because not everybody is entitled to an education.

No "right" (read: entitlement) can be dependent upon another's service, or obligate another to provide it... A quick check of the Bill of Rights confirms this. Demanding the services of another as a "right" is slavery,...and I thought we had settled that one, about 140 years ago.
Rights are inalienable (cannot be taken away), and are not granted by any man or Government, but are every human's at birth.

[ck_taft325is]

I guess we shouldn't have public schools either because not everybody is entitled to an education.

I'm just going to start saying this when I read something this stupid... "Shut your Commie mouth."

[5KWattson]

Instead of fixin our trashed economy let's spend more money on a system that is already a failure did everyone forget about Medicare ? This is absolutly insane. Let's start a group buy on tickets for R3V's who want to move to Germany

[sam3]

Instead of fixin our trashed economy let's spend more money on a system that is already a failure did everyone forget about Medicare ? This is absolutly insane. Let's start a group buy on tickets for R3V's who want to move to Germany

Sadly, Germany is headed down the tubes as well. The only reason they can afford their standard of living is that America buys their Benzes and P-Cars and provides for their national defense, otherwise, they'd be the smallest province in the USSR.
Without the US to defend and support them, the EU is already on the slippery-slope.
Oh, and Italy...when US dollars stop flowing into the middle east, the Sheiks wont be snapping up Lambos and Ferraris either, so you might as well shutter those plants as well.

[E30Kaiser]

I guess we shouldn't have public schools either because not everybody is entitled to an education.

Yeah, because they haven't cut a shit load of classes at my school and pay for teachers. Last year my major's department had to start rationing paper due to costs. All of this after Obama talks about education being high on his agenda of things needing to be fixed and promising to make our children competitive at the global level etc. I know Obama isn't micro-managing the educational system and directly cutting the classes and pay for teachers, but nothing he has done since becoming president has helped it.

[5KWattson]

SOB well that plan is down the drain, so how long before this health care plan takes affect

[Be30mer]

Sorry guys, my state did the worst damage...

[Raxe]