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  • ck_taft325is
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2007
    • 6880

    #121
    Originally posted by Schnitzer318is
    I disagree here. Reason being, tax cuts only really help the upper middle class and up. A tax cut for the poor, lower middle, and middle classes won't free up much money for them at all. Which is unfortunate because those are the people with most of the purchasing power... just through sheer numbers. There are far fewer upper middle and wealthier class members.

    You are correct in saying that there is no guarantee that if taxes were raised the government would use all that extra revenue to pay down the debt. But my assertion was based on the fact that they did. The fastest way for the debt to come down would be to raise taxes AND cut spending.

    Oh ya... and for F*CKS sake end the war that is costing us millions by the hour!



    They aren't attacking us for no reason. We have been interfering with their part of the world for the better part of a century. And before us the Brits were. LOL we are still telling them how they should govern themselves.



    OK, sorry... I meant 70's and 80's. Nice catch though, I was so far off.



    I already said that. They can't afford to shoulder the burden of high taxes or you kill their standard of living. The upper classes can afford the higher taxes and still maintain their SOL.
    So Americans deserved to die for what our Government has done by saying they shouldn't commit mass-genocide?

    And you want to raise taxes on the "wealthy" because "they can afford it" so as to save the middle class which, any smart business man or company with ANY longevity will pass onto the lower-middle classes? Sorry, but as people have pointed out, regardless of your opinions on Reagan he brought in more revenue for the Government while giving everyone a tax break. Everyone. Not just the "middle" class. Because as soon as you say, "Hey, we're going to give xyz class a huge tax break because we feel they are shouldering the burden and tax xyz class because they can afford it" everyone and anyone will be trying to get into the tax break bracket. That and it doesn't work.

    Yonder current Government hasn't increased taxes to pay off the previous debt or even start making headway on their own. They have spent and started entitlement programs in huuuuge degree's.
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    • Schnitzer318is
      R3VLimited
      • Jan 2008
      • 2057

      #122
      Originally posted by ck_taft325is
      So Americans deserved to die for what our Government has done by saying they shouldn't commit mass-genocide?
      What? Oh, if you are saying innocent people died... then I completely agree but I don't follow the rest of your question. The "war on terror" should have never happened. We played with fire messing with the middle east for decades and we got burned.

      Originally posted by ck_taft325is
      Because as soon as you say, "Hey, we're going to give xyz class a huge tax break because we feel they are shouldering the burden and tax xyz class because they can afford it" everyone and anyone will be trying to get into the tax break bracket.
      Again, I disagree. Even with higher taxes, the rich will never want to make less money just to avoid taxes. History has shown that even with ridiculous taxes the rich stayed rich.

      Originally posted by ck_taft325is
      Yonder current Government hasn't increased taxes to pay off the previous debt or even start making headway on their own. They have spent and started entitlement programs in huuuuge degree's.
      I couldn't agree with you more here. They're spending just as hard as the previous administration... which is fool hardy. Bailouts sucked but hell most of the fed was straight out of Goldman Sachs. The "entitlement" programs better actually end of saving money as they say it will (health care) or it will cost the dems the oval office and most of the seats they hold in Congress.

      But I've always been a proponent of non trying the same old thing. The definition of stupidity: trying the same thing and expecting a different result. I'll definitely hold off judging this admin. til I see some results, positive or negative.
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