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If not Jay z, then Eminem as #1. I think in a few years if jay retires, there will be no question as to whether or not Em is the greatest of all time.
Lyrically, no one is in or ever has been in Eminem's league and he proved that after taking some years off and returning to DOMINATE with little effort. The second verse on "No Love" is quite possibly the greatest verse of all time.
Surprised I havent heard mention of:
Big L
Twista
CaniBus....
Originally posted by ebelements
Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.
Lupe Fiasco.. very underrated, but speaks the troof
Mos Def
Kanye West.. might be a douschebag, but makes good hits
Jay-Z (not the early 2000 big pimpin' crap)
Drake
I'm going to assault the fuck out of you at a meet if i every meet you. I'm not even kidding, I will fuck you up to the point where you're going to have to learn how to speak again.
You are starting to get on everyones nerves. Stop starting shit because people don't agree with your opinions. kthxbai
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B.I.G,Tucap,Eazy-E,BIG L and GANG STARR
plus look at this
Cats who had great impact on Hip-Hop before their demise
By Quiban Salazar-Moreno
"The greatest of all time died on March 9..." ehh... I don't think so.
Here is my list of the top ten rappers who are dead. I based my ranking on how fresh they were when they were alive, their contributions to hip-hop. And if they were alive, would their music be any good?
I excluded cats like Jay Dee, Jam Master Jay, Freaky Tah, and Scott La Rock becuase they weren't really emcees. Jay Dee was more of a producer and Freaky Tah more of a hype man. Anyway, here's the list.
10. Cowboy (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5)Death: On Saturday, September 8 1989, Cowboy died of complications from HIV AIDS. He was two weeks shy of his 39th birthday.
When people think of Grandmaster Flash and Furious 5, they first automatically think of Melle Mel, but Cowboy was the backbone of the group along with Scorpio. There wasn’t much publicity when he passed, mostly because he already contributed what he had to the culture.
9. MC TroubleDeath: MC Trouble died of an epileptic seizure in 1991, on her 19th birthday.
MC Trouble was the first female emcee ever signed to Motown Records. In 1990 she made her rounds on BET and YO! MTV Raps with “(I Wanna) Wanna Make You Mine”. The track was hot, and unfortunately she died before really making a name for herself.
8. Buffy (Fat Boys)Death: on December 10, 1995, Darren "Buffy, the Human Beatbox" Robinson died of a heart attack in Rosedale, New York. He was 28 years old and reportedly 450 lbs.
Growing up I was a huge fan of the Fat Boys. They were funny, confident and made some fresh music. I think after their movie Disorderlies they pretty much worn out their welcome. They broke up for awhile, which was fine. Prince Markie Dee was doing his thing. Then talk of reunion surfaced, which I think would have been dope over some those beats from the mid-90’s from Pete Rock, Large Professor, or Evil Dee. I mean it worked for Run-DMC and “Down with The King” right?
7. Eazy EDeath: In 1995, Eazy-E entered the hospital with what he believed to be bronchitis. He was diagnosed with AIDS, and almost immediately announced his illness to the public. He died soon after, on March 26, 1995.
Eazy E didn’t write his own lyrics until the last years of his life. He was wack. But when Cube or Ren wrote them, he was one of the best emcees ever. He had the perfect voice, look and attitude. If it wasn’t for him, there’s a lot of things that wouldn’t have happened in hip-hop.
6. Grym Reaper aka Too Poetic (Gravediggaz)Death: In April 1999: "Grym Reaper" was diagnosed with a deadly colon cancer, and was given only three months to live. On Sunday, July 15, 2001, Anthony “Grym Reaper” Berkeley passed away, almost two years longer than the time he was given by the doctors.
Most people forget about Grym, but his contributions to the first two excellent Gravediggaz albums and the heart and passion he showed on the last Gravediggaz album has to be applauded. He was an excellent emcee, but honestly I don’t miss him as much as some other emcees. 5. Ol Dirty BastardDeath: ODB collapsed at approximately 5:29pm on November 13, 2004 at Wu-Tang's recording studio. He was pronounced dead less than an hour later, only two days shy of his 36th birthday. He had a lethal mixture of cocaine and the prescription painkiller Tramadol in his system at the time of his death.
I liked ODB. I liked his personality; I liked his unpredictable nature and just his craziness. It made for funny, entertaining hip-hop. His flow wasn’t to bad either, especially on the DJ Premier-produced cut “Pop Shots” with M.O.P.
4. TupacDeath: Tupac was shot in a drive-by on September 7, 1996 after the boxing match between Mike Tyson and Bruce Seldon in Las Vegas. Shakur was hit several times (including once in the lung) while attempting to jump in the back seat. He died in the hospital on September 13, 1996.
I really haven’t had an urge to want to hear new Tupac music at all. He made so many tracks that they’re still coming out almost a decade after his death. I would like to see what he would be doing nowadays and if he ever would have squashed his beef with everyone. Although lyrically, Pac has never impressed me, but his passion, charisma and honesty always caught my attention. Me Against the World is still his best album.
3. Notorious B.I.G.Death: On March 9, 1997, Biggie was shot and killed in Los Angeles, where he had been attending a party by VIBE Magazine near the Peterson Automotive Museum.
After hearing the Duets album, and the regurgitation of Biggie lyrics that we’ve heard over and over again, it would definitely be nice to hear him spit some new stuff over beats from the Neptunes, Kanye and Timbaland. He’s really one of the best that’s ever done it.
2. Big PunDeath: Struggling with weight problems during his lifetime, Pun died on February 7, 2000 after a fatal heart attack.
I’m a Big Pun fan, and it really hurt my heart when he passed. It was cool to see a Latino represent with skills plus make dope hits. I really put him up there with Biggie, Jigga, Rakim, Nas, you know, the legends in the game. He just left too early to do more than he did.
1. Big LDeath: On February 15 , 1999 Big L was shot seven times in the head and chest and killed on 139th Street, just blocks away from his Harlem home. He was 24 years old.
I think Big L is the illest emcee who is no longer alive. Listening to his first album and then his posthumous album, you’ll hear some of the illest metaphors and similes ever spoken.
Peep this nugget from 1995’s “Put it On:
“Aiyyo, you betta flee Hops, or get your head flown three blocks
L keep rapper's hearts pumpin like Reeboks…
I got the wild style, always been a foul child
My guns go boom-boom, and yo' guns go pow-pow”
Check this one from 1999’s “Ebonics”:
“A burglary is a jook, a woof's a crook
Mobb Deep already explained the meanin' of shook
If you caught a felony, you caught a F
If you got killed, you got left
If you got the dragon, you got bad breath
If you 730, that mean you crazy
Hit me on the hip means page me”
He was on his way to signing with Roc-A-Fella Records. How nice it would have been.
Q is a hip-hop and entertainment journalist from Denver,Colorado. He writes for AOL Blackvoices, Vibe magazine and SoHo.com. He blogs as Qsviews
Would Big L have made your list of top 10 dead rappers at all? Who'll be the illiest and funkiest cat on your list? Let's know what you make of Q's views.
I've always been proud of being a Marine. I won't hesitate to defend the Corps "Supersquad"
"Prostitutes are a sub-category of Amusement Parks"-
You are starting to get on everyones nerves. Stop starting shit because people don't agree with your opinions. kthxbai
While Leaf's expession of his annoyement with ReelDick19 is not expressed in the most delicate way, I kinda think that a simple ban would achieve the same relief.
When 95% of a member's posts is to stir shit, then I am enclined to think this is not the right forum for him...
I'm not sure I could disagree with the Top 5 you have there. I might knock Eminem off for Talib though.
However, I would definitely disagree with the mention of Lil' Wayne. His lyrics/raps are nursery rhyme shit. His beats/songs, however, are pretty sick. His voice/swagger is the only thing that keeps him "in the game;" that and high school retards.
I think Eminem is the opposite. His lyrics, syncopated tempo, and rhymes are amazing. His songs, however, suck ass. I think it's the studios that force him into that radio chart-topping shit.
I'd add Andre 3000, and Common to the Honorable Mention list.
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