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  • Ian F
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 148

    #16
    IMHO, if the goal is simply a fun car to drive around on nice days once in awhile (no track, auto-x, etc), then an air-cooled 911 is the only way to go. Sure, there are cars that are cheaper and/or better, but none will give the same experience (good and bad).
    '88 325is: Diamond Schwartz; 210K miles; Koni SA; H&R springs; poly bushings (sold)
    '03 TDi Wagon; 5 spd (Ho-hum DD; 326K miles and counting...)
    '64 Morris Mini Cooper (w/e vintage toy #1)
    '72 Triumph GT6 (w/e vintage toy #2)
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    • Turf1600
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 9815

      #17
      Originally posted by Ian F
      IMHO, if the goal is simply a fun car to drive around on nice days once in awhile (no track, auto-x, etc), then an air-cooled 911 is the only way to go. Sure, there are cars that are cheaper and/or better, but none will give the same experience (good and bad).
      "Hey guys - I want a cheap e30 like a 325e. What are your thoughts?"

      "Abandon that idea and go with a 3.0CS or a 2002 turbo"

      JK...but I'm not buying a 911. I'm looking for a car to fart around with.
      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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      • QUKBMER
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2010
        • 8178

        #18
        My boss has 2 944 turbo's 86-87 and two 928s4's 88's. The 944's agree need to be sure to buy turbo model's and the 928's need to be 88-up for the 5 liter v8 twin cam 32 valve models(single cam models are POS). The 928s4 have 319 hp stock and the 944 turbo's have i think 220hp.
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        garage queen 91 bmw 325is / 1972 Chevy El Camino 355 sbc 450hp

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        • Bimmerista
          R3V Elite
          • Nov 2005
          • 5425

          #19
          Originally posted by FredK
          When are you going to do a Euro plate filler install DIY? I need to budget my time wisely. Do you at least have a parts list?
          I will make a write-up soon. I've had tons of requests from ppl asking me how to do a chrome valve stem cap install at the moment.

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          • Kershaw
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2010
            • 11822

            #20
            what about a late model plastic gas cap DIY?

            my early model has the metal cap and i think its kind of ugly. besides it is small and hard to handle. like all of blunt's lovers.
            AWD > RWD

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            • quickervicar
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jun 2009
              • 1197

              #21
              Originally posted by priapism
              944 is what I would look for. Clutches are a pain and expensive to replace. Look for faulty water pumps and AC units.
              ^ This. Also, rear hatch seals & hinges

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              • KenC
                King of Kegstands
                • Oct 2003
                • 14396

                #22
                928 = ungodly expensive parts. Remember, these were $80-90k cars in the 80s.

                944 Turbo would definitely be the way to go. You can pick up nice examples for $7-8k. I'd take your time and make sure you get one that's been well cared for. Also, the 944 Turbo was faster than the 911 when they made it.
                Originally posted by Gruelius
                and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                • freeride53
                  R3V OG
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 11972

                  #23
                  911 Gang or Die

                  1991 BMW 318i (Old Shell RIP, Now Being Re-shelled & Reborn)
                  1983 Peugeot 505 STI
                  1992 Volvo 240 Wagon
                  2009 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Sport 4WD

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                  • ReallyDirtyThirty
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 449

                    #24
                    I love Porsche 914's. They aren't the fastest but for fun in the sun I think they're great. Plus you have love the sound of the air cooled engine.

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                    • slammin.e28
                      שמע ישראל
                      • May 2010
                      • 12054

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ReallyDirtyThirty
                      I love Porsche 914's. They aren't the fastest...
                      Just get a 914/6.....

                      I know of one in South America right now....I also have an alternator for said car. ;)

                      911 or go home.
                      1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                      • Ian F
                        Advanced Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 148

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Turf1600
                        JK...but I'm not buying a 911. I'm looking for a car to fart around with.
                        Bzzz... "cheap car"... bzzz... "Porsche".... does not compute.... <fatal error... ;)

                        In that case... yeah... probably buy the cleanest 944 you can find... play with it for a year or so, then sell it before something expensive breaks.
                        '88 325is: Diamond Schwartz; 210K miles; Koni SA; H&R springs; poly bushings (sold)
                        '03 TDi Wagon; 5 spd (Ho-hum DD; 326K miles and counting...)
                        '64 Morris Mini Cooper (w/e vintage toy #1)
                        '72 Triumph GT6 (w/e vintage toy #2)
                        '73 Volvo 1800ES (future vintage restomod project)

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                        • j0oftheworld
                          E30 Addict
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 480

                          #27
                          Anyone spot this article in GRM?




                          Plain and simply beautiful! Love the older 912/11's but it's true.. p-car = $$$ unless you're going w. a 944.
                          An older 911 or a 356 would be awesome one day!

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                          • kylekrueger
                            Wrencher
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 250

                            #28
                            It would depend on what you really want. You could get a 912 (356 D) as a running project for around 8-10k, but I don' think that is what you are looking to spend.
                            914's are not bad cars at all, the type 4 engine is more reliable than the type 1 engine, however I would imagine they have all sorts of roof leaks, but luckily parts are cheap for 914's.
                            If you want a 944 then be very certain that it has been well maintained and cared for. The reason you can get 944's for 2k all day is because they are rolling turds, 944's should be in very good order before considering a purchase.

                            In my opinion, I would look toward the 914, it would be a good weekend car and relatively easy to work on.

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                            • blackhawkimpact
                              R3VLimited
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2415

                              #29
                              I got a '83 Porsche 944 for sale for less than $2k if interested. But I'm in CA.

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                              • der affe
                                Moderator
                                Technical
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 8452

                                #30
                                I have a really nice 1971 914-6 (conversion) sans the box flairs (which I don't like the way they look on a car) it has a 1971 911s (euro) 2.4 190 hp motor with the mechanical fi and ITBs. I built the car myself and spent about 11k. I found a really clean 914 body that had a fresh alpine white paint job, already had a doaner 1971 911s that was my dad's and had tons of cancer. I used the motor and some of the gauges and parted it for $ to build the car. I am also running C2 carerra wheels (6" in front and 8" in the rear).......... I still.spent 11k on top of it. The top seals will leak no matter what. All of mine are new and they still do. While the car is fun to drive and the engine sounds FANTASTIC it is still a pretty primitive car. I DD'ed it for 2 years before I bought my BMW and honestly, it is more fun to drive the BMW.

                                if you are looking for 914's you want to look at the battery tray and below it. As the battery leaks, it will eat the tray. If it goes longer, it will get into the rail and the suspension mounting point can fail. This happened on my own car. When it was painted by the PO they just put a patch over the damage and it eventually failed. I had to section in a repair piece. You will want to pull up the carpet behind the seats to look for rust. Since the tops leak, they are prone to getting rust at the base of thefirewall where it meets the floor. If you have rust there, check out the floorpan and you will most likely find rust there too.

                                If you find one that needs a fender replaced, there are 170 spot welds PER fender, they are not hard to replace, but very time consuming.

                                Finding a clean 914 can be hard to do.

                                For my money, I would get an older (early 80's up to 84) CIS 911 that has been well cared for. You will be pretty happy with your purchase, the 2.7 or 3.0 carerra motors make plenty of power. Once you get tired of that, you car get a complete 3.2 and swap it in for reasonable $ and you will have a rocket!
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