48÷2(9+3) = ???

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  • KenC
    King of Kegstands
    • Oct 2003
    • 14396

    #136
    2(9+3) isn't exactly 2*(9+3), though you get the same value if that's those are the only terms.

    You have to use the distributive property first if 2(9+3) is associated with anything else. You have no choice but to get 24 from it, THEN you divide 48 by it.
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    • Matt-B
      The Waffler
      • Jun 2009
      • 3856

      #137
      Ken, you speak the truth, I passed math, and its 2


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      • 5Toes
        Banned
        • May 2010
        • 9836

        #138
        Yessir

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        • WhatWentWong
          Wrencher
          • Jun 2008
          • 265

          #139
          Originally posted by KenC
          2(9+3) isn't exactly 2*(9+3), though you get the same value if that's those are the only terms.

          You have to use the distributive property first if 2(9+3) is associated with anything else. You have no choice but to get 24 from it, THEN you divide 48 by it.
          No, you gotta look at the entire equation, not just a snip of it.

          48 / 2(9+3)

          = 48 / 2 x (9+3)

          = 24 x (9+3)

          = 24 x 9 + 24 x 3 (distributive applies here, no earlier)

          = 288

          IF it is 48/ [2(9+3)], then:

          = 48 /[2x9 + 2x3] (distributive applies earlier)

          = 48 / 24

          = 2

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          • TomSuddard
            Advanced Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 179

            #140
            I only made it to page 3 before posting, but seriously????

            IT IS TWO YOU IDIOTS!

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            • TomSuddard
              Advanced Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 179

              #141
              If you really want to get technical about it, distribute the 2 first.

              48÷2(9+3)
              48÷(2(9)+2(3))
              48÷(18+6)
              48÷24
              2

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              • WhatWentWong
                Wrencher
                • Jun 2008
                • 265

                #142
                I give up.

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                • ck_taft325is
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 6880

                  #143
                  It's 2.
                  Need a part? PM me.

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                  • Raxe
                    R3V Elite
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5346

                    #144
                    Originally posted by WhatWentWong
                    No, you gotta look at the entire equation, not just a snip of it.

                    48 / 2(9+3)

                    = 48 / 2 x (9+3)

                    = 24 x (9+3)

                    = 24 x 9 + 24 x 3 (distributive applies here, no earlier)

                    = 288

                    IF it is 48/ [2(9+3)], then:

                    = 48 /[2x9 + 2x3] (distributive applies earlier)

                    = 48 / 24

                    = 2
                    You can't just keep pulling the 2 away from the brackets. There is no multiplication sign and in mathematics you can't add things "just because." It's attached to the brackets, it affects the brackets and it's distributed into the brackets. As has been stated countless times before, 2(9+3) is NOT THE SAME as 2*(9+3).

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                    • lambo
                      Captain Scene Points
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 10953

                      #145
                      Originally posted by KenC
                      2(9+3) isn't exactly 2*(9+3), though you get the same value if that's those are the only terms.

                      You have to use the distributive property first if 2(9+3) is associated with anything else. You have no choice but to get 24 from it, THEN you divide 48 by it.
                      How is 2(9+3) not the same as 2*(9+3)? They both state 2 multiplied by the quantity (9+3). 2(9+3) is just a condensed form of writing it. If they wanted you to use the distributive property before dividing 48 by 2, they would have put parentheses around 2(9+3)...since they didn't you have to go left to right...

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                      • frankenbeemer
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2260

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Raxe
                        As has been stated countless times before, 2(9+3) is NOT THE SAME as 2*(9+3).
                        Please provide a citation for this claim.
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                        Originally posted by JinormusJ
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                        • frankenbeemer
                          R3VLimited
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2260

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Raxe
                          Divide is before Multiply in the BEDMAS order of operations.

                          48÷2(9+3) = X

                          48÷2(12) = X

                          24(12) = X

                          288 = X

                          Do you still believe this? Seems like the right answer for the wrong reasons.
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                          Originally posted by JinormusJ
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                          1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                          1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
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                          • ck_taft325is
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 6880

                            #148
                            It's fucking 2.
                            Need a part? PM me.

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                            • frankenbeemer
                              R3VLimited
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2260

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Raxe
                              How do you suggest it's properly written then? "÷" and "/" are the same thing, and correctly written out 48 is over the rest.
                              Do you still assert that every operation after the division sign is now part of the denominator?
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                              Originally posted by JinormusJ
                              Don't buy an e30

                              They're stupid
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                              1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                              1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                              1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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                              • frankenbeemer
                                R3VLimited
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2260

                                #150
                                Does implied multiplication and explicit multiplication have the same precedence on TI graphing calculators?


                                Implied multiplication has a higher priority than explicit multiplication to allow users to enter expressions, in the same manner as they would be written. For example, the TI-80, TI-81, TI-82, and TI-85 evaluate 1/2X as 1/(2*X), while other products may evaluate the same expression as 1/2*X from left to right. Without this feature, it would be necessary to group 2X in parentheses, something that is typically not done when writing the expression on paper.

                                This order of precedence was changed for the TI-83 family, TI-84 Plus family, TI-89 family, TI-92 Plus, Voyage™ 200 and the TI-Nspire™ Handheld in TI-84 Plus Mode. Implied and explicit multiplication is given the same priority.
                                sigpic
                                Originally posted by JinormusJ
                                Don't buy an e30

                                They're stupid
                                1989 325is Raged on then sold.
                                1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                                1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                                1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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