What to give for salary expectation?

[87e30]

Just as an example of how you should be asking for more, I currently pull 55k a year as a first year apprentice tradesman :) Accounting should be higher, by a large amount!

Depends what you do.

Starting at a "big 4" accounting firm is right around that number, and that's including an accounting degree, likely a 5th year masters program, and getting your CPA.

Private industry will pay a bit more... but it's not rolling in money initially.

[z31maniac]

$150k a year.

Doesn't everyone make that much?

[z31maniac]

But really, even who you are employed with inside your industry will play a large part. My current gig is known for paying their employees well, so I researched my position/skill level's avg salary, then added.

[SimplyDope]

Vancouver is fucked when it comes to employment. Seriously. Just start meeting people and build up your connections because that's the only shit that will land you a job. Not even joking.

I have at least 3 friends who have MBAs who can't land shit in the business and finance sectors. And they're not big stoners who sit around and wait for employment to find them ;) They've been the top of their classes and are well-rounded. And for Vancouver opportunities, go in person. Looking for jobs online just gives employers the opportunity to create an image of you in their minds. I have a terrorist name so it's easy enough for me to realize the benefit of communicating my personality type in person rather than leaving my name and credentials as representative of who I am.

Good luck with the hunt. In the same boat. Tired of seeing all the fucktard stoners and burnouts getting better jobs than more qualified people. Experience doesn't mean shit. Learn software/hardware and become familiar with corporate culture. It's the same at every job. Pull strings and suck the metaphorical cock if you have to. Being the nice guy will get you nowhere. The best jobs I've ever had (National Geographic, graphic designer, etc) came to me because I was the most manipulative and took advantage of the situation. Don't sit back and wait for interviews. Play the system. Get in people's faces.

But then again I have only a BA, so I use other ways of communicating my strong points rather than relying on a sheet of paper to do the talking. If you feel strongly enough about your abilities to perform a certain job and you really want it, nothing will stop you. And if you hear the many variations of NO, you're too good for the losers who won't hire you. Their loss.

[mrsleeve]

$150k a year.

Doesn't everyone make that much?

I think I am gonna be close to that this year ;)

[z31maniac]

Vancouver is fucked when it comes to employment. Seriously. Just start meeting people and build up your connections because that's the only shit that will land you a job. Not even joking.

I have at least 3 friends who have MBAs who can't land shit in the business and finance sectors. And they're not big stoners who sit around and wait for employment to find them ;) They've been the top of their classes and are well-rounded. And for Vancouver opportunities, go in person. Looking for jobs online just gives employers the opportunity to create an image of you in their minds. I have a terrorist name so it's easy enough for me to realize the benefit of communicating my personality type in person rather than leaving my name and credentials as representative of who I am.

Good luck with the hunt. In the same boat. Tired of seeing all the fucktard stoners and burnouts getting better jobs than more qualified people. Experience doesn't mean shit. Learn software/hardware and become familiar with corporate culture. It's the same at every job. Pull strings and suck the metaphorical cock if you have to. Being the nice guy will get you nowhere. The best jobs I've ever had (National Geographic, graphic designer, etc) came to me because I was the most manipulative and took advantage of the situation. Don't sit back and wait for interviews. Play the system. Get in people's faces.

But then again I have only a BA, so I use other ways of communicating my strong points rather than relying on a sheet of paper to do the talking. If you feel strongly enough about your abilities to perform a certain job and you really want it, nothing will stop you. And if you hear the many variations of NO, you're too good for the losers who won't hire you. Their loss.

The second half of your post is the some of the worst advice I think I've ever read, on any subject.

[z31maniac]

I think I am gonna be close to that this year ;)

And you make a huge sacrifice for it. A sacrifice most, myself included, would never make.

[mrsleeve]

And you make a huge sacrifice for it. A sacrifice most, myself included, would never make.

Yup I do, it really sucks too no arguments there at all. But only a few more years of this shit and I will be all done with it and be semi retired at 35. Sacrifices now for better quality of life for longer and sooner when most people my age are just starting to get into a professional grove and looking at 30 more years of the grind. I will be able to just pick and choose when I work and what I want to do, or even just work for beans and bennies at home.

At least you recognize the fact there is a huge down side to my line of work, and dont just spit out the "at least you are working" line.

OP: I dont really know what to tell you, or any really good advise. I have not a had a real job interview since I was in HS. I just get call to go to work thanks to my reputation. All I can say is keep your nose to the grind stone, sometimes finding work is more of a job and more work than actually working especially in this environment ( all though my industry is going nuts right now ). Polish up your resume and really look at it. Tailor it for the each position you are applying for, and just keep your self out there and keep looking something will turn up. Sadly you may have to lower your compensation expectations a little bit as there is prolly a ton of competition and others competing for what you are looking for and willing to work for next to nothing to just get work

[Farbin Kaiber]

When you retire, we can play cars and fabricate nifty stuff with your skillset. Everyone the whole world wide will want to come and sit in our shop and listen to us rant. I'll get to work on the insulated polebarn.

[87e30]

Something about farbin and sleeve in the same room just doesn't seem right to me haha

[JubJub]

I'm a banker in NYC fresh out of college at a boutique. Depending on dealflow I'll most likely be at 100k. Then again things could sour and I could be left with some pretty crappy pay :(

[mrsleeve]

87: yes I think there will be a disturbance in the force when that happens

When you retire, we can play cars and fabricate nifty stuff with your skillset. Everyone the whole world wide will want to come and sit in our shop and listen to us rant. I'll get to work on the insulated polebarn.

hahaha hell yes sounds like a plan to me. Just makes me wonder what kinda crazy shit we could come up with. I am thinking e30 snowmobile for starters

That or when the world ends the woods will be crawling people looking for the "compound" LOL

[Farbin Kaiber]

^ I've been thinking about an e30 like this!

[mrsleeve]

Yeah but thats kinda off the shelf stuff. I was thinking more like Skis and 1 track, with handle bars rather than a wheel. Home made and just looks dangerous to even stand near let alone operate. If its not dangerous then whats the fun?????

Oh this thread has now been jacked and is about snow transportation.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Weedeater powered zipline across the river!