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  • Vince30
    R3VLimited
    • May 2009
    • 2318

    #16
    Originally posted by Raxe
    It's not difficult to "do a better job" when you introduce your design 6 years after the one you're copying.

    I'm not a fan of SMG either, but give some respect where it's due. Bashing BMW's incredible engineering department is just plain ignorant.
    Dsg came out in 2003 and was the world's first dual clutch transmission in a series production car.

    After driving a few SMGs on the road, I would chose a standard 6 speed over them any day. DSGs feel practical for daily driving, but everyone I know that has/had one has had to replace it.

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    • chucker
      Advanced Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 106

      #17
      Suck My Gonads. I had one in Brunhilda, my 2006 m5. It laid rubber alright, but damn when it tears up it sux.
      89 M3 "Ms. Bavaria" Garage Queen Cinnabar w/ black guts
      12 Chevy Avalanche "OJ" Black on Black and.... Loaded

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      • Raxe
        R3V Elite
        • Nov 2006
        • 5346

        #18
        Originally posted by Vince30
        Dsg came out in 2003 and was the world's first dual clutch transmission in a series production car.

        After driving a few SMGs on the road, I would chose a standard 6 speed over them any day. DSGs feel practical for daily driving, but everyone I know that has/had one has had to replace it.
        I realize that, and SMG debuted in 1997 alongside Ferrari's F1 system. The sequential gear concept is the same but the execution is different, Volkswagen saw what BMW was doing and came up with a better system once technology had evolved to allow it. It's like saying the McLaren F1 sucks because the Veyron is much faster. Different era, different technology. Both were great achievements.

        I've literally driven everything from SMG-II to E-Gear and F1, and I'd probably agree with you on the standard 6 speed. Some of the systems really aren't bad though, and on higher-end cars having to maneuver a heavy and awkward clutch pedal (like in the Murcielago) is not the most enjoyable experience. But as far as E46 M3's go I'll take 3 pedals any day.

        >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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        • iidesu
          Advanced Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 124

          #19
          Originally posted by Car Addict
          ^True facts
          evidently.
          gabriella psychic

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          • ohthejosh
            R3V Elite
            • Mar 2010
            • 4963

            #20
            i like driving holding a penis shaped object in my hand. it makes me feel like a man. no homo.;)
            SO MUCH MORE TO DO!!
            IG: ohthejosh

            LEGIT CHECK ME BRUH
            BUYER FEEDBACK THREAD

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            • 1fastETA
              Wrencher
              • Apr 2011
              • 264

              #21
              Originally posted by Julien
              smg=small mexican guy, shifts the normal manual gearbox for you
              :finger: I am Mexican

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              • slammin.e28
                שמע ישראל
                • May 2010
                • 12054

                #22
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR
                If it dosen't have a clutch pedal it isn't a true manual.
                1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                • accident
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 7303

                  #23
                  oh lawd

                  Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                  i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  Moral of this story?

                  If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                  • Vince30
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2009
                    • 2318

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Raxe
                    I realize that, and SMG debuted in 1997 alongside Ferrari's F1 system. The sequential gear concept is the same but the execution is different, Volkswagen saw what BMW was doing and came up with a better system once technology had evolved to allow it. It's like saying the McLaren F1 sucks because the Veyron is much faster. Different era, different technology. Both were great achievements.

                    I've literally driven everything from SMG-II to E-Gear and F1, and I'd probably agree with you on the standard 6 speed. Some of the systems really aren't bad though, and on higher-end cars having to maneuver a heavy and awkward clutch pedal (like in the Murcielago) is not the most enjoyable experience. But as far as E46 M3's go I'll take 3 pedals any day.
                    Porsche was doing dual clutch on their race cars in the 80s, so the same thing can be said about given time to perfect it to bmw. I have only driven the SMG in an 05 m3 and an 08 m5, they are cool when driving fast but I sure couldn't get the hang of them trying to drive them normally. They were jerky and slow shifting and I felt like I was in the passenger seat to someone that was not very good at driving stick.

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                    • slammin.e28
                      שמע ישראל
                      • May 2010
                      • 12054

                      #25
                      Bump because I wanted to make fun of this chick.....




                      She drives this....

                      1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                      • Kershaw
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 11822

                        #26
                        Did she r3v it?
                        AWD > RWD

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                        • Brezzi
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1630

                          #27
                          I like how a tread got bumped just to point out the ignorance of some dumb bitch from facebook.. very r3v

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                          • ohthejosh
                            R3V Elite
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 4963

                            #28
                            Originally posted by slammin.e28guy

                            i didnt know you can drive kitchens in the rain.
                            SO MUCH MORE TO DO!!
                            IG: ohthejosh

                            LEGIT CHECK ME BRUH
                            BUYER FEEDBACK THREAD

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                            • slammin.e28
                              שמע ישראל
                              • May 2010
                              • 12054

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Kershaw
                              Did she r3v it?
                              She is a r3v. I hate this chick. She's the typical relationship status change every week chick.

                              Last I saw the car on the street the RF headlight was busted in.....
                              1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                              • slammin.e28
                                שמע ישראל
                                • May 2010
                                • 12054

                                #30
                                Originally posted by brezzi
                                i like how a tread got bumped just to point out the ignorance of some dumb bitch from facebook.. Very r3v
                                ^_^
                                1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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