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    Originally posted by CanadianPress
    SUNDRE, Alta. - Crews were scrambling Friday to contain and clean up a pipeline spill that is believed to have sent up to 475,000 litres of crude oil flowing into a rain-swollen Red Deer River system in west-central Alberta.

    Plains Midstream Canada says when the spill was discovered Thursday night it closed off its network of pipelines in the area.

    Tracey McCrimmon, executive director of a community group that works with the industry, said it was rural homeowners who first raised the alarm about an oil pipeline spill.

    She said people who live just north of Sundre phoned in reports Thursday night of smelling rotten eggs — the telltale odour of sour gas or sour oil.

    "The first call that we got was at 8:40 pm. There was an odour complaint. We had multiple calls of a rotten egg smell," said McCrimmon, director of the Sundre Petroleum Operators Group.

    "We called all of the oil and gas operators within six kilometres of the area. They were able to source the odour within an hour."

    The company said the oil spilled into Jackson Creek near the community of Sundre, about 100 kilometres from Red Deer. Jackson Creek flows into the Red Deer River.

    Recent heavy rains have swollen streams and rivers in the area, some to near flood stage, and local officials are concerned the oil will spread more quickly down the system.

    "There's oil in the river and the river is moving very quickly right now because of the recent rains and meltwater," said Bruce Beattie, reeve of Mountain View County, which is on the river system.

    "Certainly anything that is coming out of the pipeline or that did come out of the pipeline is certainly moving quickly down stream.

    "It's going to be a major environmental concern for sure."

    The region around Sundre is considered pristine wilderness by many in Alberta. It's a common getaway area for people in Calgary and popular with anglers and hunters. The area where the oil spilled is sparsely populated and mostly ranch land.

    Alberta Environment spokeswoman Jessica Potter said communities and individuals downstream of the spill have been told not to use river water until further notice.

    "Residents in the area have been notified that a spill has taken place," she said.

    "Water intakes have been shut at all facilities downstream and we are encouraging people to shut-in their water and not draw from the river at this time."

    Premier Alison Redford headed to nearby Dixon Dam to hold a news conference Friday afternoon where she said the spill had been contained to the Glennifer reservoir and crews were working to minimize the environmental impact.

    She said there will be an investigation but added that Alberta's pipeline system is supported by a strong regulatory framework that serves as a model for other jurisdictions.

    "It's my expectation that the minister of environment and the minister of energy, as well as the (Energy Resources Conservation Board), will have to review those investigations once they're completed to determine the cause of this incident and then to take whatever steps might need to be taken in order to prevent this in the future."

    She said until the investigation is complete, it's too early to say whether aging infrastructure is to blame.

    "Albertans have an expectation that the infrastructure that we have in place ... is strong," she said.

    "It is unfortunate when these events happen. We are fortunate in this province that they don't happen very often, and we can have some confidence that when they do happen, we have plans in place to deal with them."

    But Mike Hudema of Greenpeace said the damage has already been done to the central Alberta ecosystem. He wants a halt to approval of any new pipelines until changes and upgrades can be made to the existing infrastructure.

    Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said changes need to be made to existing laws.

    "I don't think we're paying adequate attention to what happens in real life versus what happens in the fossil fuel wonderland where everything goes wrong," she said.

    The community of Sundre is upriver from the spill, but Red Deer is downstream.

    The City of Red Deer has been told booms will be set up on the river near the Dickson dam and Gleniffer reservoir.

    Leslie Chivers, a city spokesman, said people in Red Deer have been told there is nothing to worry about.

    "I hesitate to use the word concern because if they can clean up the spill, then life is normal," Chivers said. "We are monitoring the situation at this time. And if things change, then we'll advise residents of further actions that will be happening."

    Plains Midstream said it was light sour crude that spilled. It said Alberta energy regulators and government health and environment officials are monitoring water and air quality in the area.

    "Light sour crude oil has a strong petroleum odour but this odour does not pose a health or safety risk to the public," the company said in a news release.

    Company vice president Stephen Bart expressed regret.

    "We deeply regret this incident and are working to ensure we're doing all we can to limit the extent of the release and any community and environmental impacts," he said in a statement. "We're committing the resources necessary to mount a full-scale response."

    Staff at the Gleniffer Lake Resort on the shores of the reservoir said the company told them to stop using water from the lake and was hauling fresh water in for them. Otherwise, they said they hadn't noticed the spill.

    The spill comes as Plains Midstream continues to clean up an April 29, 2011, pipeline spill of 4.5 million litres of oil northeast of Peace River, Alta.

    That leak — one of the largest in Alberta history — happened in a remote area on the 772-kilometre, 44-year-old Rainbow line between Zama, Alta. and Edmonton.

    Early estimates suggested that spill was only several hundred barrels of oil. It wasn't until four days later that the energy board reported the full extent of the leak from a centimetre-wide crack around the bottom of the pipe.

    Energy critics and conservation groups say the spill near Sundre raises new questions about pipeline safety, monitoring and the enforcement of environmental regulations.

    "Albertans should be extremely concerned that these pipeline spills keep happening and the weak detection systems in place," said Madeline Wilson of the Alberta Wilderness Association.

    Alberta's Opposition Wildrose Party called the spill further evidence the government is failing to effectively enforce the energy industry.

    "Our regulations are no good unless we have the boots on the ground to enforce them," said Wildrose environment critic Joe Anglin. "There is no reason why these kinds of spills should be occurring in Alberta."

    Alberta's Energy Resources Conservation Board estimates there are about 400,000 kilometres of energy-related pipelines criss-crossing Alberta.

    The conservation board is responsible for regulating pipelines that begin and end in Alberta. Pipelines that cross provincial boundaries or the U.S. border are regulated by the federal National Energy Board.

    Since the Rainbow spill and a handful of less serious ones that followed, environmentalists have stepped up their calls for Alberta's regulators to review how aging oil pipelines are monitored and maintained.

    But the regulator argues pipelines in the province have never been safer. It cites 2010 statistics that showed 1.6 incidents per thousand kilometres of pipeline.

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      #3
      ^My first and only thought.

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        #4
        oppsss

        this is what happens when you have old aging infrastructure, that is well past its original expected service life, and the environmentalists/protesters stand in the way of permitting NEW ones to be built. To replace or take on many of the shipments these old lines are making.
        Originally posted by Fusion
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          #5
          Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
          oppsss

          this is what happens when you have old aging infrastructure, that is well past its original expected service life, and the environmentalists/protesters stand in the way of permitting NEW ones to be built. To replace or take on many of the shipments these old lines are making.
          So you're saying this is the environmentalists fault?..Rrrright.
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            #6
            They need to add more shut off valves or something.
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              #7
              Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
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                #8
                Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                oppsss

                this is what happens when you have old aging infrastructure, that is well past its original expected service life, and the environmentalists/protesters stand in the way of permitting NEW ones to be built. To replace or take on many of the shipments these old lines are making.
                The irony is this is quite possibly true. And look at that, it is true.

                Plains Midstream Canada, which operates the pipeline that was built in 1966...
                [source:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4241238/]

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by george graves View Post
                  They need to add more shut off valves or something.
                  they probably have isolation valves but perhaps not enough of them. it's actually pretty simple, you just need a pressure monitor that closes the isolation valves automatically when it detects a significant pressure drop. You will still spill some oil, how much just depends on the spacing of the valves.

                  the other question it raises, is how often are they pigging the lines?

                  I'd say about half to 3/4 of our oil infrastructure is 40-50+ years old, and a lot of it is in very poor condition. Three factors are reluctance of oil companies to invest in upgrades and repairs, enviromental/NIMBY wackos, and byzantine government regulation.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by nando View Post
                    Three factors are reluctance of oil companies to invest in upgrades and repairs, enviromental/NIMBY wackos, and byzantine government regulation.


                    Nailed it.

                    I'm sure the oil companies don't want to lose the revenue by having their product come spilling out all over the ground, but when you can't construct new, updated pipelines, etc...then this is what you get. Everyone harps about how it hurts the environment, etc, etc and acts like it's the oil companies fault the spill happened. NOPE. Again, I'm sure they'd rather the oil make it to it's destination and make them money than end up slathered all over some trees and birds, then have to pay to bathe said creatures in Dawn.
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                      #11
                      looks like it's pissing shit on the trees or somethin tisss tisss
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                        #12
                        and here I thought they were just shooting Busta' Rhyme's "ARAB MONEY" video....
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by nando View Post
                          they probably have isolation valves but perhaps not enough of them. it's actually pretty simple, you just need a pressure monitor that closes the isolation valves automatically when it detects a significant pressure drop. You will still spill some oil, how much just depends on the spacing of the valves.
                          Yup but from the looks of that rupture it may not be a big enough hole to create a big enough pressure drop, especially if there is lots of grade changes in that line and where it may be with in those changes. But I do agree with you totally

                          Originally posted by nando
                          the other question it raises, is how often are they pigging the lines?
                          Crude lines are pigged regularly to remove the build up. But the bigger question is how often are they making tool runs with a smart pig of some sort. As tooling runs are very expensive and since battery life in the tool is limited you may not have traps and launchers at close enough intervals to make it from one to the other on 1 set of batteries. There for you have to cut up the line to make the runs and then put them back together. Not that this is not done or common practice on these old lines, its just adds to the cost exponentially, (I just completed a job for this very purpose last week). Shippers will do what they need to do to comply with their regulatory requirements, unless they are having issues with a line. Then they will go way over board, like I suspect this Canadian outfit will be doing in the coming months.

                          But you know this all dont you ;)

                          Originally posted by nando
                          I'd say about half to 3/4 of our oil infrastructure is 40-50+ years old, and a lot of it is in very poor condition. Three factors are reluctance of oil companies to invest in upgrades and repairs, enviromental/NIMBY wackos, and byzantine government regulation.
                          Yup the lions share of our main products pipe lines were built from the mid 50's though the early 80's.

                          and 100% on the head for why we are not building new transmission lines (Keystone anyone)


                          Oh and yeah Herbi it is mostly the enviro wack jobs fault.
                          Originally posted by Fusion
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                          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eecen View Post
                            The irony is this is quite possibly true. And look at that, it is true.

                            The only truth is that a balance should be achieved.

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                              #15
                              I had gone through the post, Crude lines are pigged regularly to remove the build up. But the bigger question is how often are they making tool runs with a smart pig of some sort. As tooling runs are very expensive and since battery life in the tool is limited you may not have traps and launchers at close enough intervals to make it from one to the other on 1 set of batteries.
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