I f*cking hate Australia.

[Iain]

I find it hilarious that people hate on drifting yet have no problem with drag racing.

It's blatantly obvious which one requires more skill and talent, and it certainly isn't driving in a straight line.

Not necessarily a redneck.

More like trailer park trash.

The quintessential bogan would be something like:

• Consumes cheap cigarettes and alcohol.
• Terrible sense of fashion.
• Poor grasp on the English language yet demands everybody else speak it.
• Probably has 3 kids by the time they're 13, usually so they can spend the government bonus on drugs and alcohol.
• Typically xenophobic, dislikes immigration. "Fuck off we're full" stickers are everywhere.
• Loves either Holden, or Ford because they're so patriotic. Doesn't actually realize neither of those cars are Australian.
• Undereducated and over opinionated.
• Has one, or more tattoos of the southern cross. Once again, they believe it holds significance to Australia. If you tell them it's a bunch of stars that can be seen from anywhere in the southern hemisphere, they will get angry and try to fight you. Ask me how I know.

The vast majority of Australians fall somewhere in between being a normal human and a complete bogan. These types are hard enough to deal with, so imagine what it's like when you come into contact with the 25% that are full blooded bogans.

The average "modified" car in Australia
Most aren't quite as extreme but this is clearly what they're aiming for.

I've eaten stale sandwiches that have more intelligence and a better viewpoint on the world than you. This bullshit that everyone drives a blinged-up Commo/Lancer is utter crap - if you pulled your head out of your arse you'd actually see they're in the minority out here. So someone drinks cheap booze and smokes, and that makes them a bogan? What the fuck are you on? Are you seriously that far up yourself you consider those things to be "trailer trash" like qualities?

Commodores and Falcons share SFA components with any other car out there, you blithering twat. And we're responsible for developing the GM Zeta platform - have you driven any of these cars you're bagging out? I have, and they'll run rings around an E30 (as they should with +30 years development). As for the comment about the talent to drift vs drag racing, well I'd love to see you pedal a 10second or faster car down the strip, hero.

Also, you don't even seem to recognise what the fuck the Southern Cross represents to Australians. 1) It's on our flag, fuckwit. 2) It formed a part of the Eureka movement's symbol. Look it up, you might learn something.

Long story short, emigrate to another country and see how you go. With a tiny amount of perspective, you might actually realise that if you don't act like a complete fucking retard on the streets you can have fun with cars in Australia. Sure, the nannystate speeding kills bullshit is tiresome, but it's not hard to get onto racetracks to get your jollies (if you aren't a complete mouth-breathing moron... which I am suspecting you actually are).

I should have known you were a complete douche canoe by your username. Demon Camber is utterly retarded, and so are you. You are a the posterchild for why cousins shouldn't marry.

Cliffnotes: If you really hate Australia, you can do something and fuck off, you dumb waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles.

Regards,
A bogan

It is impressive how quickly Australia went from being relaxed and cool, to being incredibly lame and uptight! All from a change in government? How did this happen?!?!

Erm, no. This has been happening with our increasing Americanisation over the last 20 years.

Never been to Australia, but in my head I imagine everyone there too look like Russel Crowe.

I'LL FUCKEN FIGHT YOU WITH ME OLD MATE TUGGA, waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles

[Massimo]

I gave up on Australia a long time ago. If I was single and didn't have all my family and friends here I would probably move to Germany.

Just and FYI for all you maximum speed limited on our highways here are 110km/h I believe that is about 60mph. From what I have read you guys in the US have some crazy numbers like 80mph.

On a good note R18+ rating for games has passed through the upper house and will be in affect from 1/1/2013 thank fucking god.

[mikeedler]

Well at least in the U.S. when a spider bites you, you don't die. When you go for a swim you don't get stung by a box jelly fish and die. You also don't go to prison for doing 5 over and held in higher contempt than a serial rapist. Have to say that's much greener.

because there are no poisonous spiders or snakes in the U.S. as well as nothing that will kill you in water????? No, you don't ALWAYS go to jail, but the Chicago police sure did like to "rough" us up when I was younger.

You know what I was saying with the original statement- I wasn't knocking the U.S., just being a bit realistic.

[OniKyan]

Trust me, drag racing does take skill.

I know it does.

[Holland]

I find it hilarious that people hate on drifting yet have no problem with drag racing.

It's blatantly obvious which one requires more skill and talent, and it certainly isn't driving in a straight line.

Trust me, drag racing does take skill.

If difficulty, risk and noise are what makes a sport respectable, I'd say drifting by its very nature would be the most respectable sport of all.


I'm not even a big fan of drifting, I just find it amusing when people try to classify what activities are and aren't "real" (motor)sports based on their personal preferences.

This.

[Raxe]

Isn't the point that sports have a hierarchy? Difficulty, personal risk, even the amount of noise generated cause some sports to be more respected than others, perhaps rightly so. Subjective judging on artistic merit may be seen as less sporting than a more objective form of scoring.

I prefer to think of drifting as the tiddlywinks of motorsports, but that's just me, and probably unfair to tiddlywinks.

If difficulty, risk and noise are what makes a sport respectable, I'd say drifting by its very nature would be the most respectable sport of all.


I'm not even a big fan of drifting, I just find it amusing when people try to classify what activities are and aren't "real" (motor)sports based on their personal preferences.

[OniKyan]

I find it hilarious that people hate on drifting yet have no problem with drag racing.

It's blatantly obvious which one requires more skill and talent, and it certainly isn't driving in a straight line.

[frankenbeemer]

Still don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you seriously saying figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics are not real sports either? Pretty terrible analogy considering both are recognized Olympic events.

Isn't the point that sports have a hierarchy? Difficulty, personal risk, even the amount of noise generated cause some sports to be more respected than others, perhaps rightly so. Subjective judging on artistic merit may be seen as less sporting than a more objective form of scoring.

I prefer to think of drifting as the tiddlywinks of motorsports, but that's just me, and probably unfair to tiddlywinks.

[tg318is]

[WhyNot]

Never been to Australia, but in my head I imagine everyone there too look like Russel Crowe.

uuhhh, i think you may find some 'other types' too
see the sig pic of the hot tub with the bromosexuals
their cheer is 'bottoms up' and nobody is drinking...

tg318is
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[WhyNot]

that "news" lady, tracy grimshaw,....is that really a chick or a dude?
not sure its all 100% correct.
the news is owned by like 10 families in the world who also own the world.
this bs keeps you from focusing the real issues so it is actually doing its job.

[Raxe]

Youre a car dancer, nothing more. Hell 99% of the "professionals" arent even pulling a real drift, just pulling the brake and letting the back slide out.

Put you on the crimson wave didn't I? Drifting is the ice dancing or rhythmic gymnastics of motorsport.

Still don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you seriously saying figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics are not real sports either? Pretty terrible analogy considering both are recognized Olympic events.

[SedanSandwich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=Vci5DtbYoo0

Relevant. This shit about fines for being too low and such? wtf... I feel sorry for you guys. I would not mind a Holden commodore though.

[bades2001]

Dont judge Australians based on A Current Affair, in terms of journalism its a show which has consistently scraped the bottom of the barrel for the lowest common denominator stories which appeal to the older ultra conservative viewer

The chasers war on everything covers this very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8h8_BRi_Uo

(^^spot the e30 in that vid haha)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdroRRo2Z1w

The biggest problem in Australia for car enthusiast is that in the eye of johnny law you fall into 2 categories: either your into holdens & fords OR your a no good law breaking hoon.

I shits me so hard when i think that there are people out on Australian roads who are driving round in rusted out shit boxes (usually EL falcons) which are falling to bits, have shitty brakes, rubber bands for tyres, handle like sofas and are death traps to other motorist which is ok because its a unmodified car and you pay your rego and TAC each year. BUT if you put a blow-off valve or even just a pod filter on a brand new or near new turbo'd jap car they'll lock you up and crush your car for being a hoon!

Never been to Australia, but in my head I imagine everyone there too look like Russel Crowe.

Russel Crowe is from New Zealand;)

[XW70]

aca is funnier than most stand up comedy.