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    Stop SB 249 in Cali!

    As many of you know it is very hard to own an AR type weapon (and others) in California. The only two ways to own such a weapon is to install a bullet button which makes it impossible to remove the magazine with out a pointed tool such as a pen or bullet, or to have an AR with out any options such as the pistol grip, for grip, and so on.
    Now senator Yee has introduced SB 249 which makes it illegal to own an AR with a conversion kit (bullet button).
    If you live in California and believe in the constitution and the right Americans have to arm and defend them selves please sign the petition.
    Taking weapons from law abiding citizens does not protect anyone, and this bill only makes the law abiding people of California weaker and less safe.

    Q: What is SB 249?
    A: Senate Bill 249 (Yee SD-08 “Firearms: assault weapon conversion kits”) is a California State Senate bill authored by Senator Leland Yee designed to prohibit possession, importation, making, selling, transferring, or loaning, any “conversion kit.”
    If this Bill passes, beginning July 1, 2013, violating the newly-added gun control laws would subject people to civil and criminal liability.
    Penal Code section 17(a) makes a violation of the proposed law a misdemeanor since the proscribed conduct addressed in the bill is not listed as an infraction. (“A felony is a crime that is punishable with death, by imprisonment in the state prison, or notwithstanding any other provision of law, by imprisonment in a county jail under the provisions of subdivision (h) of Section 1170. Every other crime or public offense is a misdemeanor except those offenses that are classified as infractions.” Emphasis added.) Additionally, “conversion kits” could also considered a public nuisance.
    SB 249 would subject hundreds of thousands of personal property items to state-sponsored confiscation without compensation, an unlawful taking under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
    Q: What exactly is a “conversion kit”?
    A: According to the bill’s text: “a ‘conversion kit’ means any part that, when affixed to a firearm with a fixed magazine, is designed solely and exclusively to convert that firearm into an assault weapon as defined by one of….(1) Paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515…(2) Paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515…(3) Paragraph (7) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.”
    Q: What is the problem with SB 249?
    A: There are many. For starters, SB 249 is vague and ambiguous. No one knows how law enforcement will apply the law if passed, but we do know that similarly vague laws have cause many innocent California gun owners to be arrested, jailed, and even prosecuted for non-crimes.
    While SB 249 could make thousands of law-abiding California gun owners into criminals, it would most certainly subject hundreds of thousands of personal property items to state-sponsored confiscation without compensation, an unlawful taking under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
    Since there are at least a few hundred thousand – and likely millions – of items which would be considered unlawful “conversion kits” under the law, SB 249 would either [A] require a method of compensation be provided as part of the bill (with overall funding of at least $25 Million dollars), or [B] expose the taxpayers of the State of California to tens of millions of dollars of class-action lawsuits, civil rights litigation, compensation for unconstitutional takings, and plaintiff’s legal fees.
    Further, each unlawful arrest of an innocent or unsuspecting Californian will incur tens of thousands of dollars of cost. Based on actual history with California’s existing firearms laws, it’s not difficult to see how these improper arrests could themselves reach into the millions of dollars of cost to taxpayers and municipalities.
    Despite Sen. Yee’s stated goals for the legislation, the bill has no provisions for law enforcement or civilian training, education, or public outreach. It is reasonable to anticipate that the necessary outreach and education for SB 249 would incur millions of dollars of taxpayer-borne costs.
    SB 249 violates the United States Constitution, the California Constitution, and will only cause mass confusion, hurt innocent California families, cost the taxpayers money, and subject law enforcement officers and departments to unnecessary litigation.


    http://stopsb249.org/ <------- !!!!!!!!!!!!
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    #2
    Here we go, should guns be illigal thread. In all honesty I don't know why you would need an AR to defend your self but what ever good luck guys.
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      #3
      Move out of Cali. Problem solved.
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        #4
        How about Cali follow the constitution?
        Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Massimo View Post
          Here we go, should guns be illigal thread. In all honesty I don't know why you would need an AR to defend your self but what ever good luck guys.
          Because we live in an imperfect world where criminals will get there hands on AR type weapons no matter what laws are passed. I would rather be on a level playing field and own an AR I will never have to use in self defense then not have one and wish I did.

          Originally posted by dannyyisntt View Post
          Move out of Cali. Problem solved.
          No thank you Sr. I like this state. We just need some changes.
          Even the :giggle: around here love guns and have their very own shooting clubs/advocacy groups.

          Originally posted by Vedubin01 View Post
          How about Cali follow the constitution?
          Yep
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            #6
            Hi is this where we post pics of are AR's

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              #7
              You should see what you can own here. Laws against guns, HA. Why did I leave the Rebublik Of Kalifornia, oh yeah, I remember now.

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                #8
                I don't necessarily think we need ARs for self defense. But I'd agree they are super fun to shoot at range.


                Why hasn't Cali been accidentally been nuked yet? Or at least succeeded... its not like they follow the constitution anyway...
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Massimo View Post
                  Here we go, should guns be illigal thread. In all honesty I don't know why you would need an AR to defend your self but what ever good luck guys.
                  Zombies? duh!
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                    #10
                    I'm pretty sure the constitution doesn't allow guns for the reasoning of "self defense", you guys are looking at it for the wrong reasoning. It's not about self defense, sure that is a wonderful byproduct, but really...

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                      #11
                      guns dont kill people, this guy kills people^

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                        #12
                        "It was a basic principle of a tyrant...to unarm his people of weapons, money, and all means whereby they resist his power."
                        Sir Walter Raleigh ( 1554 - 1618 )

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                          #13
                          So glad I got the hell out of that place...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gkobez View Post
                            Zombies? duh!
                            Dude its no joke zombies are for realz

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View Post
                              "It was a basic principle of a tyrant...to unarm his people of weapons, money, and all means whereby they resist his power."
                              Sir Walter Raleigh ( 1554 - 1618 )
                              Great quote

                              I am actually AR shopping this morning haha


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