Gaming PC Help

[MJCRO]

What's your budget? BTW I've been building the last few years too.

[cale]

Everything else can be el cheapo. For under $800 you can build this rig and It will run everything at maximum for years to come.

You are not going to run every single game at playable fps at max settings for under $800. Nor are you even going to build the computer with the components you listed for that without having some form of special pricing or buying used/questionable components. Sorry, but that's unrealistic.

I also highly advise against running an SSD only. You need a storage drive unless you want to keep installing/uninstalling programs as you want to use them, something which isn't very convenient considering most games nowadays are downloaded.

[FCB_M3]

What's your budget? BTW I've been building the last few years too.

well I plan on getting a monitor, mouse keyboard. I wanna spend at least 2k for 3 year financing but not go anything over 2.2-2.3k

very useful info but wow this is like a foreign language to me haha

[Deathtoll]

240GB SSD is more than enough for most users. Most people stream videos these days and a HUGE USB external drive can go for less that 100 dollars.

How many games can people play at once? EVen if you steam all your games you can still run 20-30 at a time. You can only really be into 3 or 4 at any one given time.

I did not include os for that price since I have always had a job that could get it for free.

When I was running my i5 2600k / gtx 670 every game I had would max out all settings and run well over playable framerates.

Starcraft 2
Skyrim
Crysis 2
Xcom
All ran at 1200P at over 60fps .. I don't see how that's not fast enough.

Most people game at 1080p so there is still alot of leeway. IF he wants to get extra hardcore he can just purchase a second gtx670 card for about $350 more.

Alot of the people I hang out with an know from work don't have a buget for building pcs but we are also smart with our money. You can easily get a good rig for $800 dollars.

Im my game room I have the following hardware

GTX 275
GTX 470
GTX 570
GTX 670

Msi DX-R 780 laptop with a gtx570m

My son with his GTX470 and dual core Intel cpu (pre i3) Still runs everything close to maximum settings at 1050P and it's almost perfect. Granted most of the stuff he plays is Team Fortress 2, Minecraft and Don't starve but each of them runs flawlessly. I'd say TF maxed out is WELL beyond 60fps

FCB, if you want I can help you build a system or make a recommendation. If you like we can even install any of the games you listed on one of the FOUR different gaming pcs I have setup in my den.

I've been a pc gamer since I bought a Trident video card with 128k of ram to play Doom beta. No, wait, that was much later. I actually started playing PC games when EGA was the latest and greatest techonology.

Once built I can even have my friend help you tweak the PC. My friend frequently writes up articles on NEOGAF on maximizing graphics card options and unlocking the true potential of your gaming rig.

[cale]

I'll agree that his $2k budget is overkill, but I think claiming a quality 670 build can be had for $800 is quite bold. Card and CPU alone has you over $500, and you're definitely not going to get every other component for under $300...especially if you want parts to compliment a good cpu/gpu.

Max settings is also a pretty high demand for modern games with playable fps being quite subjective, there's a reason people justify X edition CPU's and 690's. It takes a shit ton of power to truly maximize how well a game can be played, and while great performance can be had for under $1k it's nowhere near the peak of what's capable.

[pandaboo911]

Don't bother buying expensive shit, it'll be out of date in less than a year. Do research, there are plenty of low budget builds that perform well.

Also you don't need a computer that can run everything at "ultra" settings. Unless excessive HDR and intricate details in shadows gets you off, don't bother. And don't let anyone tell you there's no difference between 30 and 60 fps, there's a HUGE difference.
Buy yourself a budget pc, sub $1000, spend the other $1000 over the next 2 years upgrading it, and invest in a decent Internet connection and you'll be golden.

[Deathtoll]

I'll agree that his $2k budget is overkill, but I think claiming a quality 670 build can be had for $800 is quite bold. Card and CPU alone has you over $500, and you're definitely not going to get every other component for under $300...especially if you want parts to compliment a good cpu/gpu.

Max settings is also a pretty high demand for modern games with playable fps being quite subjective, there's a reason people justify X edition CPU's and 690's. It takes a shit ton of power to truly maximize how well a game can be played, and while great performance can be had for under $1k it's nowhere near the peak of what's capable.

Any modern I5 with a GTX670 will play everything at the higest stock settings. Granted once you get into enabling supersampling and every other option things can tend to slow down.

The truth is most gamers are happy if you give them the default "ultra"settings and at least 60 frames per second.

Granted if you want run at 1440P across three monitors then you will need serious hardware but most guys just use one monitor and it typically runs at 1080p which is more than enough.

With a $1000 budget a monster PC can be build, Sure it won't have a epic glowing case or a sli setup but it will be more than enough to blast through the latest games for some time to come.

As far as peak performance in today's hardware will there really be a noticeable difference between 130 frames per second and 240?

At any rate yeah, 2000 is way too much unless you really have money to burn. Anything you buy today for 2000 will probably be worth 600 dollars a year from now. If you spend 1000 chances are the machine will be worth 500 dollars a year from now.

You pay ALOT for top of the line but the returns get less and less as you get closer to the top. wow just like owning a car huh?

[cale]

That last line is very true. You pay a premium for whatever is new and "in" at the the moment.

130fps would be great, if a setup consistently stayed at 130fps. However a high of 130 staring at a ceiling doesn't mean much when lows are around 25 with an average in the 40's.

[FCB_M3]

Well it's down to these three.. Will be ordering the parts soon

Last thoughts?



Choice one

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7496884&sku=B69-1491

Choice 2

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tKg2

Choice 3

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tNgT

Or if you have any suggestions of other set ups let me know..

[FCB_M3]

Thanks for the input guys think I'am going with this set up.

[Kershaw]

Don't bother buying expensive shit, it'll be out of date in less than a year. Do research, there are plenty of low budget builds that perform well.

not entirely true. i built my gaming pc 6 years ago and spent 3 grand. the processor was a grand alone. i've added more ram and replaced the graphics card due to a cable snagging on a capacitor, but it still has more than enough power to play games very well on high or ultra high settings.

you might want to consider a dual monitor set up. once you get used to it, single seems very cumbersome.

[cale]

Your choice #2 is a superior build, and the i5 2500k is last gen's processor. It's by no means bad or outdated, I just think if you're spending 2k you should get current gen parts. It's also really cheaping out on the motherboard and power supply. If you can spare that extra $300, it's well worth it.

That pricing is also terrible. I'm seeing that graphics card $40 cheaper on a Canadian site and that's not even holiday pricing.

[DoneRightBimmer]

2k buget is crazy high to me

My built PC is
LED Monitor 150$
i5 3570k /ASROCK z77 Extreme 4 motherboard 320$
650w power supply 70$
Case 25$
1 tb wd hdd 80$ can get cheaper
SSD 120$
8GB ram 50$
DVD/CD burner player 20$
GTX 560 TI older but a good card 160$ havent played a game yet that this has trouble high graphics or better/this is were you can spend the extra $$ if you want but 200-300$ range is good i think.

All in all 1000$ is the max id spend on your first PC also make sure you have enough cooling fans never want to over look this.

[FCB_M3]

Hmm yea 2 friends on FB said the same thing, they'd go for choice number 2. Lets see If i can buy all the parts on amazon or tigerdirect.

[chadthestampede]

Why not newegg? I've found they generally have the best prices and free shipping most of the time. They don't charge tax like amazon does.