newer vehicle. suggestions?

[herbivor]

Big SUV at 50 miles per day is what $20 a day x 20 days per month = $400 a month. It may make more since to lease a Nissan Leaf for just the commute and buy a truck to handle the towing. Purely economical, not for environmental reasons of course.

[e30e]

My 07 crew cab 5.3 v8 with the old 4 speed does 18mpg on highway. It does 13 though in city which makes me cry. But I can fit me 6'5, brother and dad 6'4 and 5'10 mom comfortably and if need to squeeze we could put my daughter and car seat if needed.

As for parts, gm can get a little confusing for ordering parts as they do parts based on many packages, weight, and engine size that you would figure it's easy like ordering for bmw's but it's not. But I was able to do my brakes on my truck with decent parts for less than 100 bucks; didn't do the rotors or drums since they were still round and thick.

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I get close to 20mpg with my chipped powerstroke. I've have all kinds of gas burning trucks and SUVS and nothing pulls like my Ford F250. Its a diesel and u can get them in 4 doors. The budget you have I would recommend the 7.3's though, very reliable and can pull a house or an e30 :) .

[dreamchasin]

7.3 is garbage.

Quad cab cummins or crew cab duramax.

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7.3 is garbage.

Quad cab cummins or crew cab duramax.

new cummins suck and as far as duramax go brand new is too expensive and older ones blow headgaskets a lot cause I see em for sale dead all the time.

The only thing better than a 7.3 powerstroke is a 12v cummins and they too old and the trucks they came in steer like the titanic.

and by the looks of your vehicles non of which you own.

[dreamchasin]

What about my old cars?

We have an f550 at my work and its the biggest piece of shit I have ever driven.

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What about my old cars?

We have an f550 at my work and its the biggest piece of shit I have ever driven.

Anything over a f350 is going to drive like shit. Our brand new f350 dually power stroke does everything well except steer.

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What about my old cars?

We have an f550 at my work and its the biggest piece of shit I have ever driven.

U cant compare an old wore out work truck to a clean f250 especially a turned up one, apples to oranges. I would never tell him to get a F550 they gear those to pull and to pull slowly at that. I have seen many 7.3's in the areas club pull mid10sec quarters WITH a 10K trailer and a bobcat on top of that. Oh and not to mention these trucks are daily driven. They just turn em down to go back to the high teens in MPG.

[mrsleeve]

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And based on his needs and what he wants to do with it the I would never tell him to get a fucking diesel either. The added cost of fuel (thanks to govt regs) and now the same mileage running empty as a 1/2 ton gasser will eat him up, plus the HUGE difference in maintenance costs of up keep on a diesel do not average out to benefit him in any fucking way.

new cummins suck and as far as duramax go brand new is too expensive and older ones blow headgaskets a lot cause I see em for sale dead all the time.

The only thing better than a 7.3 powerstroke is a 12v cummins and they too old and the trucks they came in steer like the titanic.

and by the looks of your vehicles non of which you own.

you dont know what your talking about. New diesels are all about the same price in the options box, about 8 grand its the base price of the trucks that differs, and when it comes to fleet sales GM is cheaper in a lot of cases.

Older Duramaxes are no more prone to head gasket failures than the anything else, and dont match the 03-05 6.0 fords for failure rate. Yes and AL head on an iron block if the cooling system is not maintained will warp on ANYTHING look at e30's for fuck sake

[dreamchasin]

U cant compare an old wore out work truck to a clean f250 especially a turned up one, apples to oranges. I would never tell him to get a F550 they gear those to pull and to pull slowly at that. I have seen many 7.3's in the areas club pull mid10sec quarters WITH a 10K trailer and a bobcat on top of that. Oh and not to mention these trucks are daily driven. They just turn em down to go back to the high teens in MPG.

I didn't know 68,000 miles meant its an old wore out work truck...

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And based on his needs and what he wants to do with it the I would never tell him to get a fucking diesel either. The added cost of fuel (thanks to govt regs) and now the same mileage running empty as a 1/2 ton gasser will eat him up, plus the HUGE difference in maintenance costs of up keep on a diesel do not average out to benefit him in any fucking way.




you dont know what your talking about. New diesels are all about the same price in the options box, about 8 grand its the base price of the trucks that differs, and when it comes to fleet sales GM is cheaper in a lot of cases.

Older Duramaxes are no more prone to head gasket failures than the anything else, and dont match the 03-05 6.0 fords for failure rate. Yes and AL head on an iron block if the cooling system is not maintained will warp on ANYTHING look at e30's for fuck sake

Ive had plenty of half ton pickups and what a joke when pulling a car you can barely stop. When I pull something I don't even know its back there, lol.

I never said for him to get a new diesel quite the opposite as anyone that knows anything about diesels knows ford hasn't made the 7.3 powerstroke for years. He can get a nicely loaded low mileage f250 for less than 11k. It would far outlast anything gas anybody puts out, yes repairs can be higher however they can be much farther in between w/routine maintenance. The fuel is also higher if you buy it as opposed to running BIO. Gassers can't easily have close to 500hp, then when turned down get anywhere close to 20 mpg either. I have a friend with over 400,000 miles on powerstrokes nothing major done, I have no friends near that in gasser.

I never told him to get a 6.0 so I'm not sure where that came from?

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I didn't know 68,000 miles meant its an old wore out work truck...

ok then I guess you looked over this part?

I would never tell him to get a F550 they gear those to pull and to pull slowly at that.

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I didn't know 68,000 miles meant its an old wore out work truck...

Shit, that's ancient if its used as a work truck. Our 3500 hd Chevy has 15000 miles already needs all new front end components and its because of the amount of abuse it gets.
It's not about miles it's about how those miles came about.

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Shit, that's ancient if its used as a work truck. Our 3500 hd Chevy has 15000 miles already needs all new front end components and its because of the amount of abuse it gets.
It's not about miles it's about how those miles came about.

yeah and its supposed to be a 7.3 too so look at the age of it as well.

[mrsleeve]

Ive had plenty of half ton pickups and what a joke when pulling a car you can barely stop. When I pull something I don't even know its back there, lol.

I never said for him to get a new diesel quite the opposite as anyone that knows anything about diesels knows ford hasn't made the 7.3 powerstroke for years. He can get a nicely loaded low mileage f250 for less than 11k. It would far outlast anything gas anybody puts out, yes repairs can be higher however they can be much farther in between w/routine maintenance. The fuel is also higher if you buy it as opposed to running BIO. Gassers can't easily have close to 500hp, then when turned down get anywhere close to 20 mpg either. I have a friend with over 400,000 miles on powerstrokes nothing major done, I have no friends near that in gasser.

I never told him to get a 6.0 so I'm not sure where that came from?

1) you said NEW GM Diesels are more expensive, than ford or dodge, Not true, to check that box for diesel on a new truck order sheet you have to cough up about 8 grand give or take a little.

2) You said the duramax is prone to HG failures, and while they do have a few (mostly form turned up and hot roded) and poorly maintained examples its nothing compared to a early ford 6.0

3) Do you even own a Diesel or just your friends? I DO, I have for years and grew up with them. I have had my share of BB Chevys as well. I know what it costs to maintain diesels and when you are doing it properly it adds up to much more than equivalent gassers. If we didnt drag heavy ass horse trailers around form time to time I would own a Pair of Yukon's

4) I agree a diesel has the potential to far out last a working gasser. But you have to maintian them and they are more maintenance heavy than any gasser, and much more costly, to do so. Shure you can tweek and tune on them, but with modern ULS fuel you cant get much more than low 20's out of them, and thats hard on the injectors with the lower fuel flow, and lack of sulfur for lubricity they heat up and are prone to premature wear and failure. Parts alone for an injector job run close to 2k. When most newish gasers already push that 18-20 range with out having to put 500-1000 in mods on them to get there, and fuel running 60-90 cents cheaper per gallon used. You do the math

5) lastly hes wanting to pull a fucking 2700lb car add in the weight of a decent car wagon and your right at 4300lbs. Thats well with in the GCVW of any 1/2 ton on the market, and anything newer than 02 will have plenty of brakes to stop that load even if the trailer brakes fail. The little woman drug my old E30 loaded to the gills with shit and her yukon full of shit across the country TWICE and hardly knew it was back there.

I agree I can put 10k on the back of my truck and I hardly even know its there and will march up the too the top of the pass with out breaking too much of a sweat and come back down the other side under control. EGTs when its 95* out push the limts some even on a 100% stock tune but that for a another thread.