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    near miss, should i have pulled over?

    I think i might have violated traffic code today by not stopping after witnessing somebody spin-out. At the time I thought I might have been in the clear but now I'm feeling kinda shitty about it. My memory is hazy but here's the story:

    I commute to school everyday on a main highway. Driving conditions are very bad due to a snowstorm. Visibility is bad, the roads are covered in ice/snow. In good weather the limit is 70, but everybody is going about 45, including me. I'm not about to go wreck my e36 that i've owned for less than a month.

    There is a tight spot in the highway that quickly dips into a valley. Both north and south bounds are squeezed together, separated by a tall concrete barrier; there is also a bridge spanning the lowest point, which blocks your view of the up slope.

    I'm behind a few cars in the right lane at what I think is a good distance, about to enter the downslope into the valley. Suddenly I see the cars ahead of me brake. I hit my brakes and, though I feel myself slide at first, the ABS is doing it's job and I'm sure I can stop in time. However, the left lane is clear ahead of me and behind me, so instead of just braking I go to the left lane since I don't want to end up at a stand still and risk myself getting rear ended.

    At this point everybody, including me, has really slowed down, and I can clearly see why. In the left lane on the ascending slope is a stalled semi, no brake lights, no hazards or anything. It's just sitting there. This is where my memory gets hazy because my mind went into overdrive. Suddenly I see in my rear view mirror a PT cruiser who is going too fast and will rear end me if I don't get out of the way. The stopped semi is a good distance off yet and by this point I've passed the slow cars in the right lane, so I accelerate and move back into the right lane as soon as I can. A second after I'd gotten out of the way the driver in the PT cruiser, who must have slammed on her brakes when she saw me, is spinning out of control right next to me. I heard a thud and saw that she'd smacked the barrier with her front bumper. She spins around and comes to a stop, and I can see that she's the only one in the car and that she's okay. I write her off as a terrible winter driver and I continue on my way since I'm late and there is literally no where for me to stop without congesting things even more, but now I'm not so sure. I'm afraid I may have accidently cut her off when I first switched to the left lane, and when I switched back i'm afraid it caused those behind me to slow down even more and make things worse. Due to the semi the left lane is completely blocked, and I wonder if she might have driven right into the back of the thing anway.

    I wish I could remember better because this is bothering me. What should I have done? I can imagine right now the lady in the PT cruiser blaming the asshole in the black beamer who cut her off. But she was clearly going way to fast, especially on that part of the highway.
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    #2
    If you didn't get hit, you're fine as far as the law is concerned.

    She lost control and wrecked her vehicle, not your fault. She should have been driving more defensively.
    No E30 Club
    Originally posted by MrBurgundy
    Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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      #3
      yep, lawfully, you are at no fault.

      Could you have "saved" this lady's PT cruiser? I don't think that can be definitively answered, so neither can you be definitively blamed.

      Also: I NEVER go blazing down one open lane (in the snow) while the lane beside me is crawling, because the risk is just too high that someone will decide to pop out into the empty lane in front of me.

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        #4
        She is better off totaling the PT Cruiser anyways. Good on you sir. The less of those things on the road the better.
        1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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          #5
          Originally posted by slammin.e28guy View Post
          She is better off totaling the PT Cruiser anyways. Good on you sir. The less of those things on the road the better.
          What about the turbo ones? Those are little sleepers.

          I can't comment on the legality of it, but people are f'd up these days. If you pulled over to help, she probably would have blamed it all on you.

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            #6
            Originally posted by PeteD View Post
            What about the turbo ones? Those are little sleepers.

            I can't comment on the legality of it, but people are f'd up these days. If you pulled over to help, she probably would have blamed it all on you.
            Pretty much ugly Neons underneath. Tech here used to work on them and has nothing good to say about them. Would rather drive an HHR and they look terrible too.
            1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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              #7
              Originally posted by slammin.e28guy View Post
              Pretty much ugly Neons underneath. Tech here used to work on them and has nothing good to say about them. Would rather drive an HHR and they look terrible too.
              I helped a buddy put an engine in his mom's.... I don't want to talk about it...

              But, I will.

              Engine has to come out the bottom, and there is only a half subframe... So you have to set it down on some tires or whatever you have handy. I think the engineers were drunk when they designed that vehicle.
              No E30 Club
              Originally posted by MrBurgundy
              Anyways, mustangs are gay and mini vans are faster than your car, you just have to deal with that.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Exodus_2pt0 View Post
                I helped a buddy put an engine in his mom's.... I don't want to talk about it...

                But, I will.

                Engine has to come out the bottom, and there is only a half subframe... So you have to set it down on some tires or whatever you have handy. I think the engineers were drunk when they designed that vehicle.
                I woulda told her to scrap it and get something Japanese. My sister had a Chrysler T&C and I kept fixing it and fixing it, etc....eventually I told her I'm not working on it anymore....trade it in.

                Two weeks later she's got a 2012 Honda Civic. Perfect for her as she drives a lot for work and needed the MPGs. Plus "free" maintenance for however long, etc. She's not at all a car person....so this works out.
                1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                  #9
                  Similar thing happened to my dad years ago.

                  Traveling 70 something on the left lane.
                  Big american boat car is doing 100+ coming at him.
                  Dad changes lanes to let him thru.
                  'Merica changes lanes at the same time.
                  Swerves, loses control, flips car from what my father can see in the rear view.

                  1991 325iS turbo

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                    #10
                    By law you're fine... but I can't imagine (maybe) causing someone to lose control and hit shit and then continuing on my way. Especially since it is a woman... she was freaked the fuck out. Should have stopped and talked her out of her hormone driven panic attack.

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                      #11
                      Why the fuck was she out of the kitchen in the first place?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 10Toes View Post
                        Why the fuck was she out of the kitchen in the first place?
                        Nice. Very original.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by travish325 View Post
                          Nice. Very original.
                          Not really. It is a well known social convention in the United States that women usually spend all of their waking hours in a kitchen making sandwiches, with the occasional "dome" break.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by travish325 View Post
                            Nice. Very original.
                            It's more about the post above mine...

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                              #15
                              one less pt loser on the road lol , but no you didn't do anything wrong you avoided being rear ended by someone that was obviously an incompetent, besides if you had stopped the driver of the PT loser would probably have yelled at you and tried to put the blame on you
                              88 325is Five Speed
                              Lachssilber

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