Why do American Cars Suck So Bad?

[tspangle88]

Op is stuck in 2004. Has anyone seen what euroland had been putting out lately? Complaining about american car interiors, lol.

Indeed:


I see a pretty even distribution of countries throughout that list, and 5 American nameplates ahead of BMW. The myth of some huge quality gap between American cars and German and Japanese cars had it's origin in fact, but it hasn't been true for a long time now. At least 10 years. Also, let's keep in mind that BMW is a premium brand, they cost considerably more than a Ford or Chevy. Not really fair to compare them.

[ELVA164]

The name on that car is American, but it was produced in Europe. Although I would rock one, especially an ST!

But remember, they were still produced by Ford. That's what I think sets them apart from Chrysler and GM; I think Ford does the best job (especially in the past couple years again) of uniting its American and European (and Austrailian, I guess) divisions. Sharing technology, design, and development this way really is the path to the best possible product, in my opinion.

[mulletman]

Follow-up question: Why does it seem that British Ford always has cooler stuff than US-market Ford?

[InuFaye]

Indeed:


I see a pretty even distribution of countries throughout that list, and 5 American nameplates ahead of BMW. The myth of some huge quality gap between American cars and German and Japanese cars had it's origin in fact, but it hasn't been true for a long time now. At least 10 years. Also, let's keep in mind that BMW is a premium brand, they cost considerably more than a Ford or Chevy. Not really fair to compare them.

Look at that shit, Land Rover is so good they don't even list them.

[King Mufasa]

Hands down the Taurus SHO with its twin-turbo 3.5 liter V6

past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k8KM667fgE&feature=player_detailpage

present

[Hooffenstein HD]

Follow-up question: Why does it seem that British Ford always has cooler stuff than US-market Ford?

Because RS1800.


Because Lotus Cortina.


Because Escort RS Cosworth

[Holland]

Indeed:
Also, let's keep in mind that BMW is a premium brand, they cost considerably more than a Ford or Chevy. Not really fair to compare them.

This.

A new, fully loaded Malibu is about 35k. A new, fully loaded 5 series is what? 60k give or take?

[mrcheezle19]

go sit inside one of the new fords. they are all nice and the interior materials are not cheap at all. Ford f150 limited,


nuff said.

[Holland]

On another note, has anyone ever sat in a used X3 or E9x? I thought being in an old GM was a step up...

[King Mufasa]

Originally Posted by tspangle88
Indeed:
Also, let's keep in mind that BMW is a premium brand, they cost considerably more than a Ford or Chevy. Not really fair to compare them.


Well this^^^^^ should answer Mr. "why do American car s** so bad?" question

[tjts1]

On another note, has anyone ever sat in a used X3 or E9x? I thought being in an old GM was a step up...

X3 is not a real bmw. Never has been.

[bonobo]

Interesting how there was a sudden upsurge in the quality of the American automobile after a site administrator posts in a thread on r3vlimited

Shrug. You think an F30 is focused on the experience of driving as #1? There's no pur sang driver's BMW any more.

Never said that anything about an F30 being first and foremost a drivers car.
Actually, I'm completely with you. American auto companies are not the only culprits in the "extinction of the driver's car"

Op is stuck in 2004. Has anyone seen what euroland had been putting out lately? Complaining about american car interiors, lol.

For fear of talking about something I have absolutely no knowledge of, my original post was a expression of my dislike of the American cars that I have driven or had actual experience with. That excludes enough cars produced after ~2009 to prevent me from having an opinion I am willing to post on an online message board. So yes, I guess in that respect I am stuck in 2004.
But yes, I have seen and driven the new x1, among a few other European abominations. Ugh...

Originally Posted by tspangle88
Indeed:
Also, let's keep in mind that BMW is a premium brand, they cost considerably more than a Ford or Chevy. Not really fair to compare them.

Well this^^^^^ should answer Mr. "why do American car s** so bad?" question

Sure, that's fair. But keep in mind that a portion of that gap in cost can be attributed to:
-subsidization/bail outs (bill is footed to taxpayers who often have no say in the matter)
-import tariff
-miscellaneous costs of doing business overseas

Wave your magic wand and make those things disappear, and you render these American car companies helpless and unable to compete. Like I said in my first post, go to Germany and try to find someone who drives a malibu.

[kung fu jesus]

You know what pisses me off about American-market cars versus the world? Lack of turbo diesels. Especially in trucks. I want/need aDD truck that I will use to tow a chump car and can park it in the city when I need to. Give me a medium sized pickup with a turbo diesel, quad cab and can tow about 6-8000 pounds. I don't want a full-sized truck with a V8 or turbo 6. The Ford Ranger we no longer get here is a great vehicle that fits this bill. The Toyota Hilux is another. A medium sized TD pickup that gets 25+mpg around town would be tits.

We don't get the 'cool' vehicles the other markets get because of emissions, safety regs, etc. We get the Mustang, the Camaro, and other antiquated technology BS. America, fuck yeah.

[iamsam]

Hands down the Taurus SHO with its twin-turbo 3.5 liter V6

past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k8KM667fgE&feature=player_detailpage

present

How is that an SHO?

THIS is an SHO:



looks a bit different to me, maybe a different front end?

It's got some good specs, 365 hp, AWD, but only came in automatic?? also, It's still hideous.

[iamsam]

Interesting how there was a sudden upsurge in the quality of the American automobile after a site administrator posts in a thread on r3vlimited

Not from this dude. I still stand by my original statement.