ex-LAPD - Chris Dorner

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  • DÌEGØ
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    Originally posted by Cha Ching
    There was no way Dorner was ever coming out of this alive. He was destined to eat a bullet, either from his own hand or, "suicide by cop". He had already made this decision when he instigated his reign of terror.

    Many of you want to believe a "conspiracy theory" regarding his demise, but be logical for a moment . Proper tactical training dictates the safest way to remove a barricaded suspect is to force them from the building. A breach of a barricaded suspect is the last resort as it is the most deadly. Even then, the tactical team needs as much intel about the property before entering (i.e. booby-traps, # of suspects, # of hostages, etc.)

    Given Dorner's background and training in military and LE and his willingness to use firearms, the last thing LE would do in this situation would be to enter the cabin. He had already engaged deputies in a gun battle, wounding two, one of which died later.

    In this situation, forcing the suspect from the property would be the safest way to extract Dorner. Tear gas is the best tool for the job. Unfortunately, like most explosives, it burns very hot. Like welding torch hot. Most likely, this is what caused the cabin to burn.

    Unfortunately, Dorner didn't exit the building and at some point it appears he took his own life. Ironically, I'm sure this played a role in keeping police and fire units from entering. Not knowing if there were booby traps or Dorner's status would be bad news for anyone attempting to enter the cabin. Once the rounds inside the cabin started, "cooking off", further entry by police and fire crews was impossible.
    Theres just things that dont add up, if you wanna call it a conspiracy theory?

    1. They used incindiary tear gas they knew would very well start a fire.
    2. If they wanted to smoke him out why push down the walls and let fresh air in?

    Not saying he was right but there are some inconsistencies and after lapds actions (shooting innocent people?) he might have been on to something.

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  • Jean
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    LOL^ What if there is a twin Chris? Have they done a press conference yet?
    Last edited by Jean; 02-14-2013, 03:39 PM.

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  • ethrtyiS
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    it's quite amazing to me that chris' wallet survived the fire. almost as amazing as them finding his wallet, twice.

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  • Cha Ching
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    There was no way Dorner was ever coming out of this alive. He was destined to eat a bullet, either from his own hand or, "suicide by cop". He had already made this decision when he instigated his reign of terror.

    Many of you want to believe a "conspiracy theory" regarding his demise, but be logical for a moment . Proper tactical training dictates the safest way to remove a barricaded suspect is to force them from the building. A breach of a barricaded suspect is the last resort as it is the most deadly. Even then, the tactical team needs as much intel about the property before entering (i.e. booby-traps, # of suspects, # of hostages, etc.)

    Given Dorner's background and training in military and LE and his willingness to use firearms, the last thing LE would do in this situation would be to enter the cabin. He had already engaged deputies in a gun battle, wounding two, one of which died later.

    In this situation, forcing the suspect from the property would be the safest way to extract Dorner. Tear gas is the best tool for the job. Unfortunately, like most explosives, it burns very hot. Like welding torch hot. Most likely, this is what caused the cabin to burn.

    Unfortunately, Dorner didn't exit the building and at some point it appears he took his own life. Ironically, I'm sure this played a role in keeping police and fire units from entering. Not knowing if there were booby traps or Dorner's status would be bad news for anyone attempting to enter the cabin. Once the rounds inside the cabin started, "cooking off", further entry by police and fire crews was impossible.

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  • DatUtahGuy
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    Yeah they wanted to burn his ass good, shit if they could have they would have hung him and blamed it on him tripping and falling head first on a noose. "We were trying to rope him in, he's a big boy, we made the loop too small" :trollface:

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  • 2761377
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    Originally posted by DÌEGØ
    "Apparently burning people alive is now considered appropriate behavior for the police. Judge, jury and executioner,"

    it's been that way for years. SLA in 1975, Waco in 1993 are couple examples that come to mind.

    i call bs on any LEO who says the fire was unintentional.

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  • uofom3
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    ^

    Ha

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  • The Volta
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    Originally posted by deutschman
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    Well he would have had no problem heating them back up again ones they showed up. Wood fired pizza is THE best!
















    To early?
    Nope, it looks like you made that comment in 30 mins or less, so you are good.

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  • CHIF8008
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    nope

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  • deutschman
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    ^
    Well he would have had no problem heating them back up again ones they showed up. Wood fired pizza is THE best!
















    To early?

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  • The Volta
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    I hope the pizzas that were delivered to his cabin didn't get cold :/

    Lol.

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  • deutschman
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    "San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said Wednesday his deputies did not intentionally burn down the cabin. His deputies shot pyrotechnic tear gas into the cabin, and it erupted in flames, he said."

    Hey just like Waco Texas.

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  • agile30
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    His wallet must be made of the same material that the 9/11 hijackers passport was made out of that was found on the streets of NY after the crash......

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  • Thizzelle
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    yeah so this guy is swordfish now. And why would they not burn it down, I wouldn't be trying to sit in the cold and he just killed a cop in front of them so why do we need another savage sitting in a concrete box costing money.

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  • DÌEGØ
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    Originally posted by Wschnitz
    Peacefully or not why the fuck would you burn someone to death knowingly?
    "Apparently burning people alive is now considered appropriate behavior for the police. Judge, jury and executioner,"

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