.......... Dash cam catches 747 cargo plane crash in Afghanistan, 8 dead, chilling

[M-technik-3]

My line of business so it's extremely close. I didn't know any of them but two were close friends of one of our Tower Air pilots.

RIP guys

[nl328i]

I really want to unsee that.

[thearkitekt]

tragic, the only accident ive seen thats close to that was a control lock being left in on a q400. the shifting cargo does make sense though.

[george graves]

Awful....just Awful. Prayers to their families.

Hasn't been declared a load shift yet but sure appears that way.

I assume that they do a really steep take off angle from those bases. Would a steep take off angle, and a wind gust do something about the same? Or would a 747 have enough power/pitch control to get out of a situation line that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc4v6AkeP7g

[Cephas]

Ugh, I hate flying. RIP to the crew.

[gkurey]

Awful....just Awful. Prayers to their families.



I assume that they do a really steep take off angle from those bases. Would a steep take off angle, and a wind gust do something about the same? Or would a 747 have enough power/pitch control to get out of a situation line that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc4v6AkeP7g

George, a competent pilot can take off and 'max perform' their aircraft, but it certainly wouldn't result in what we saw in the video. Professional pilots are trained to prevent situations like a stall close to the ground; if a well-trained pilot gets into a stall close to the ground, they will affect a stall recovery quickly to avoid a mishap and hopefully only fly away with a bruised ego. What we saw was well-trained pilots trying to react to something they had no control over and something that was impossible to recover from. The laws of physics just plain don't allow for it.

That video you posted is probably also the same sort of deal; attempting a take off without the center of gravity in limits. You can tell by that immediate and unnatural pitch up of the nose. If the pilot was able to stop that, they would....I'm sure they were trying. If the CG of the plane is not in a specified range, the control authority may not be available to fly safely. A lot of people have died because they didn't do a proper weight and balance check before flying...it seems to happen a lot in smaller aircraft. Usually some combination of inexperience, laziness, or the ole 'we should be good, I eye-balled it', etc. The difference between this video and the 747 is that these guys probably took off with it wrong from the get go, and the 747 guys experienced a shift in the load after already being airborne.

[cale]

Definitely scary stuff, I'd hate to be the load master or anyone who worked loading that thing prior to take off. Next few days/weeks/months are going to be weighing pretty damn heavy on them.

[CabbE30]

My oh fucking my. Sad. RIP

[ButtJuice]

Christ.. that's sad.



(I didn't intend to be ironic)

[Jean]

Terrible

[brutus87]

That's crazy :(

[318isbmw]

That's definitely a really sad situation.

[M-technik-3]

Both loadmasters died in the crash. There has been chatter about something breaking loose on rotate. I could have been structural failure ie a floor tie-down could have failed or ? We won't know until the FAA completes their investigation.

I will be getting a safety briefing on it next from the bits they have found out so far but it's not public so non discloseable.

[Roysneon]

Looks as though they leveled it out by themselves before the crash, wonder if with a few hundred more feet they could have done something? Kind of disrespectful to speculate about it though when the bottom line is that an accident occurred and 8 people are dead now.

[aaron325ix]

Looks as though they leveled it out by themselves before the crash, wonder if with a few hundred more feet they could have done something? Kind of disrespectful to speculate about it though when the bottom line is that an accident occurred and 8 people are dead now.

i don't think another 3k ft of alt would allow a recovery with a sink rate like that