taking back R3v

[der affe]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/announcement.php?f=122

For everyone who has bitched about the recent changes on r3v.

Read this thread and react accordingly.

[TurboJake]

I approve. See bottom line of sig.

[lambo]

I started a discussion thread in the News and Suggestions subforum. I didn't mean to undermine anyone's efforts.

But, here's what I posted there:

Just saw this, like many others I presume.

Figured we could use a discussion thread for this proposal.

I am all for this. However, if I'm going to be paying I would like to see a total figure that is required to run this place month to month, year to year...whatever it may be. I'm sure everyone would, just to get an idea of what needs to be contributed.

Another thing is, I don't know if there's someway to guarantee this money is going towards the sites operating costs specifically. Not that I, nor anyone else, distrusts James. It would just be a peace of mind.

Continue on...

[LSM3]

Just donated $21. Is it much...nope. Its all I had in my Paypal..lol. I CHALLENGE SOMEONE TO MATCH ME!!

If you have ever:

1: Sold something on this website.
2: Bought something from this website.
3: Learned something from this website.
4: Enjoyed this website in ANY WAY.

You should donate anything you can. If its $1 AWESOME. If its more GREAT!! Help these guys out. Its a great resource and you wont know how much you enjoy it till its gone...

To the group that keep this place going. THANK YOU!!!

[James Crivellone]

I started a discussion thread in the News and Suggestions subforum. I didn't mean to undermine anyone's efforts.

But, here's what I posted there:

R3V costs break down as following

$2400 (well, 199.99 a month) for server colocation
$3000 a year toward emergency breakfixes, licenses, etc) IE this is money I put to the side to pay for upgrades/site improvements. Last year we spent about $1800 of this, this year I JUST spent $500 on a new Firewall after ours kicked the bucket with the PowerSupply
$3000 a year goes into the annual party, we make custom glasses every year, + kegs, BBQ, etc
Remaining that we make goes into the Accuracy Automotive/R3VLimited Shop/Racing fund.

Google usually brought in $600 - $1400 a month, around $800ish a month before it died.

[aaron325ix]

yea, I'm pretty sick of waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles by now...

having said that I'd be willing to throw down a few for the site that is a endless supply of knowledge and humor for this e30 enthusiast.

[mccor023]

Im confused, so R3V was advertising for Google and making an avg. $800 a month. And now no longer wants to advertise for Google so they need to compensate that loss revenue?
Is the current banner/ spotlight advertising pricing at the top of page not being adjusted to compensate the loss?
On a side side bar I'd be interested in seeing the Com-scores for site.

[bmwm42]

glad this shit is happining down to donate and say f u u k y o u to google

[e30austin]

Phuck google, I will donate what is left in my PayPal tomorrow.

[gkobez]

Just donated $21. Is it much...nope. Its all I had in my Paypal..lol. I CHALLENGE SOMEONE TO MATCH ME!!

!

I see your $21 and raise you four dollars. Thank you R3V

[shameson]

I will be sending a donation when I get paid

[bddog]

I just sent $25. I want it to go to beer at the annual party!

[James Crivellone]

Im confused, so R3V was advertising for Google and making an avg. $800 a month. And now no longer wants to advertise for Google so they need to compensate that loss revenue?
Is the current banner/ spotlight advertising pricing at the top of page not being adjusted to compensate the loss?
On a side side bar I'd be interested in seeing the Com-scores for site.

Its not that we don't want to work with Google, its that Google does not want to work with us.

Bannerads at the top are difficult to keep revenue coming in at. 90% of advertisers who contact me never respond after I give numbers, not even a, "that's too much" response. We charge similar to E30Tech and tbh this year I didn't have one renewel. I leave them at the top because they are still companies I trust to do business with.

I don't have Com-Scores per say, but here is a PDF from Google Analytics

[James Crivellone]

Now the general thought is this. R3V will not go anywhere and I will continue to back it financially, without Google it would just be nice to receive help from time to time. Normally this would not be an issue, however I helped co-found a new company which has decreased my salary by nearly 30%, so I'm cutting back on several areas to keep going.

Could we get Google going again? certainly! However at what expense? If I change the site so much that it ruins the community yet keeps r3v going whats the point in the first place?

[LSM3]

You dont have to explain anything. Stuff aint free. Someone has to pay. Lets help the guy out.