Range Rover vs. Bikers

[Vedubin01]

Can't say I have much sympathy for the bikers. I'm not typically one to promote violence in any context, but it's so blatantly obvious that they were acting in a threatening manner and trying to intimidate the driver.

Maybe if you watched the latest video posted you would have an explanation of why the guy break checked the driver of the SUV. Then you would kinda understand the part you watched.

[Dozyproductions]

Maybe if you watched the latest video posted you would have an explanation of why the guy break checked the driver of the SUV. Then you would kinda understand the part you watched.

what are you talking about. the biker interviewed admitted "that's what we call break checking".

A motorcycle break checking a RANGE ROVER while the driver is getting surrounded and frightened for his life. Even if this Lien was shouting curses it's still the most retarded thing the bikers could of done.

[willworkfore30s]

I think its not that difficult to figure out what most likely happened. RR came up on a ton of bikers. He didn't like what they were doing so he reported them to the police and then cut some of them off to prove his point. One of the cut off bikers didn't appreciate it and brake checked the RR. RR, most likely hot headed didn't brake enough to avoid hitting the biker in what was probably a split second decision of aggression. Brake checking biker gets hit. Bikers get pissed and come at RR. RR has an oh fuck moment and guns it running over some bikers. At this point its on. Bikers chase RR and eventually beat dudes ass but not without some damage being done to themselves along the way.

RR is probably an asshole trying to prove a point. He probably thought the bikers didn't have a right to be where they were doing what they were doing. He provoked them very idiotically.

Bikers reacted unlawfully but not unexpectedly in my opinion. Situation escalated.

[dishwab]

Maybe if you watched the latest video posted you would have an explanation of why the guy break checked the driver of the SUV. Then you would kinda understand the part you watched.

I did watch that video, and while the guy speaking about it seems reasonable, I am prone to believe video evidence vs. the words of someone who has every reason to tell a biased account. I have a feeling that even if he did cut the biker off initially, that wasn't the first incident here. What reasonable person would try to initiate a conflict with a group 30+ people?

I'm not here to argue with anyone so this is the last input I have, but from literally every other video posted about this incident, it's clear as day that some of these bikers (not all) were acting brazenly unsafe and aggressive, towards both this driver and others. The man in that last video who states that they were "actually obeying the laws" conveniently ignores the blatant disregard for the law they displayed numerous times in numerous videos (including the wheelie and lane sharing going on in the video AS he says it).

Anyway, it's too bad that anyone at all was injured in this entirely unavoidable situation, but as I said before - only one side here gets my sympathy.

[Vedubin01]

what are you talking about. the biker interviewed admitted "that's what we call break checking".

A motorcycle break checking a RANGE ROVER while the driver is getting surrounded and frightened for his life. Even if this Lien was shouting curses it's still the most retarded thing the bikers could of done.

I guess you are blinded. The driver cut off one of the bikes, in which the biker in white kinda break checked him. As admitted they were doing 40-50mph at the time. Anyone with a Rover knows it is more than capable of stopping as fast as the bike let off acceleration. Most likely the driver of the SUV was paying attention in his rear view mirror and did not even see the break check.

Maybe the break check was to get his attention as most people dont pay attention to bikes.

After the the 1st hit, that's what set off the bikers and became the issue.

[Dozyproductions]

I guess you are blinded. The driver cut off one of the bikes, in which the biker in white kinda break checked him. As admitted they were doing 40-50mph at the time. Anyone with a Rover knows it is more than capable of stopping as fast as the bike let off acceleration. Most likely the driver of the SUV was paying attention in his rear view mirror and did not even see the break check.

Maybe the break check was to get his attention as most people dont pay attention to bikes.

After the the 1st hit, that's what set off the bikers and became the issue.

What magical video are you seeing that?

"I don't break check but when I do and get hit, I try to run bigger cars than me off the road."

And if you're such a believer in being able to protect yourself and your family then what do you see that's so disgusting by the RR's reaction?

[slammin.e28]

Anyone with a Rover knows it is more than capable of stopping as fast as the bike let off acceleration.

Um no.

Mine has disc brakes all around (as do all Range Rovers), 4 pot front, and 2 pot rear calipers, huge mother fuckers.

Electronic brake booster/pump, although the RR in the event has vacuum booster.

No way.

Reaction time in that brake check was probably not enough for the RR driver to touch the brake pedal. Remember the average (median) reaction time is 215 milliseconds. Motorcycle guy was like 1" away.

[Vedubin01]

What magical video are you seeing that?

"I don't break check but when I do and get hit, I try to run bigger cars than me off the road."

And if you're such a believer in being able to protect yourself and your family then what do you see that's so disgusting by the RR's reaction?

Please show me physical proof that the bikes when stopped by the break check accident slashed, intimidated, or touched the RR. PLEASE, 1 picture, 1 video 1 anything. Nothing as of yet as been shown.

The only video that has aired to my knowledge is the one at the beginning of the thread. No where do you see anyone assaulting slashing, or causing harm to the RR.

All you see is a bunch of bikes that stopped around the car. Why because the first guy (break check guy) just broke 2 legs in the accident.

The guy in the RR freaks out and takes off fearing what "could" happen after he just hit one of the fellow bikers.

Taking off striking several bikes and placing 1 in a coma. Then that is when the bikes all took off and chased down the guy in the RR.


Again prove me wrong with physical evidence.


Now if the bikes just drove town the highway kicking and beating up cars on the way, then I can see using what necessary force is needed to project the family.

[Vedubin01]

Um no.

Mine has disc brakes all around (as do all Range Rovers), 4 pot front, and 2 pot rear calipers, huge mother fuckers.

Electronic brake booster/pump, although the RR in the event has vacuum booster.

No way.

Reaction time in that brake check was probably not enough for the RR driver to touch the brake pedal. Remember the average (median) reaction time is 215 milliseconds. Motorcycle guy was like 1" away.

Watch the video and show me where the front of the hood of the RR even remotely dipped by breaking.

[dsphil]

I guess you are blinded. The driver cut off one of the bikes, in which the biker in white kinda break checked him. As admitted they were doing 40-50mph at the time. Anyone with a Rover knows it is more than capable of stopping as fast as the bike let off acceleration. Most likely the driver of the SUV was paying attention in his rear view mirror and did not even see the break check.

Maybe the break check was to get his attention as most people dont pay attention to bikes.

After the the 1st hit, that's what set off the bikers and became the issue.

How ignorance are you to assume everyone to know the braking capability of bikes and accelerations, and how hypocritical that you said most people don't pay attention to bikes while you said the driver was paying attention in his rear view mirror. I just don't get it.

[Vedubin01]

How ignorance are you to assume everyone to know the braking capability of bikes and accelerations, and how hypocritical that you said most people don't pay attention to bikes while you said the driver was paying attention in his rear view mirror. I just don't get it.

Grammar be grammar...

Keep things in context

[dsphil]

You get my point.

[Dozyproductions]

Please show me physical proof that the bikes when stopped by the break check accident slashed, intimidated, or touched the RR. PLEASE, 1 picture, 1 video 1 anything. Nothing as of yet as been shown.

The only video that has aired to my knowledge is the one at the beginning of the thread. No where do you see anyone assaulting slashing, or causing harm to the RR.

All you see is a bunch of bikes that stopped around the car. Why because the first guy (break check guy) just broke 2 legs in the accident.

The guy in the RR freaks out and takes off fearing what "could" happen after he just hit one of the fellow bikers.

Taking off striking several bikes and placing 1 in a coma. Then that is when the bikes all took off and chased down the guy in the RR.


Again prove me wrong with physical evidence.


Now if the bikes just drove town the highway kicking and beating up cars on the way, then I can see using what necessary force is needed to project the family.

You're not relying on any physical proof either. Great example for this situation. If robbers (the bikers) are on your property (RR) then don't you try to protect yourself and family (running over bikers) when you are in fear for your life?

[aaron325ix]

vdub, do you just like to pick a side, preferably the one that's mostly against the grain and just run with it tooth and nail, even when its painfully obvious youre starting to sound like you've gone full retard? I mean thank god we have the P&R sub forum now so I don't have to run across your blather unless Im really looking for it. Seriously, what are you trying to prove?

The bikers are a gang of juvenile minded thugs who were attacking an innocent man with his family in the car!! It blows my mind that your right winged peanut brain cant even see that. Maybe if the RR guy had shot one of the pieces of shit then youd be on his side so you could have an excuse to spew your NRA, 2nd amendment BS all over the forums. I think you just like to hear yourself.

[10Toes]

vdub, do you just like to pick a side, preferably the one that's mostly against the grain and just run with it tooth and nail, even when its painfully obvious youre starting to sound like you've gone full retard? I mean thank god we have the P&R sub forum now so I don't have to run across your blather unless Im really looking for it. Seriously, what are you trying to prove?

The bikers are a gang of juvenile minded thugs who were attacking an innocent man with his family in the car!! It blows my mind that your right winged peanut brain cant even see that. Maybe if the RR guy had shot one of the pieces of shit then youd be on his side so you could have an excuse to spew your NRA, 2nd amendment BS all over the forums. I think you just like to hear yourself.

He has chosen that side because he is a squid himself, he even told us about how he was on a ride just like this and how they blocked and entire road. He is delusional, if he would just watch and take in some of the other video footage he would see that these guys were all riding like ass holes and had a bad accident coming to them.