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who has gone to school Gruaduated,and have a hardtime?
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last semester before I graduate with a BA in Communications. Never really planned to use it because my main goal is firefighting but I probably won't have a full time firefighting job by the time I graduate in May.
I definitely don't feel like working a minimum wage job with a college degree. Have been thinking of applying for OCS (officer candidate school) for the military but I don't think I'd be able to get in with a degree in Communications.
Have a job interview on Thursday for part-time maintenance aide for the city but that's only 960 hours a year @ 12-15$/hr.
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It's true. There are many girls at my school that do give me a hard time.
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Both undergraduate and graduate degrees in Communications and American Studies here respectively. Loads of competition on the job market with a surplus of highly educated students for "too few" jobs. Trying to remain positive and aggressively applying.
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Originally posted by slaterd View PostI can't side with you guys more, here's my situation. I went to school for 3 years and never got my degree, I'm now 24. I got a job as a drafter about a year and half ago because i told them I went to school for engineering and took some drafting courses. I did mention that I didn't have a degree to them. By some miracle chance I still got the job. So now a year and a half later I'm at about $40k a year and up for a promotion up to $60k salary as a junior project supervisor. All I did was just bring everything I had to the table as far as my personal skills (time management, project supervision, thinking outside the box, etc etc.) I'm going to school now part time for business that way I can have more doors open for me within the company, but that opportunity is only there because I'm already employed by them and they know my skills and work ethic. I hate to say it but hard work is the only thing that really pays off unless you're the 1% of Americans who've had everything handed to them from birth.
A degree really just lets you get in the door, it doesn't guarantee anything.
Good designer/drafters aren't that easy to find actually. We get a lot of contractors here, and most of them are awful, even though they have 6x as much "experience" as me (supposedly, half of them lie on their resumes).
I only have an AA from a community college, which I paid cash for. I went to finish my BA at a full size university, but I was pretty disappointed in how childish the students were and how we were also treated like children, so I quit and got my current job. I'm pretty lucky to be a big fish in a small pond - I can do pretty much whatever I want and have control over my own future.
It's funny because all my working life people have thought I was an engineer or went to school for engineering. Now I work with engineers all day long and collaborate on large industrial projects. I try to learn as much as I can from them and understand what they are doing, which gets me a lot of respect from them.
You can't really go to college to learn what I do anyway. I mean, you can take CAD classes, but that's not the same thing as leading a project team and catering to specific clients and industry standards. Most of it is learned through experience or passed down through peers.
As far as the OP. Just look at how you write. That's a reflection on you.
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who has gone to school Gruaduated,and have a hardtime?
I went to a university for 6 years and got an undergraduate and graduate degree. I got a great job 2 months after graduation from grad school. I started with $60,000 in debt. 3 years later, I have about $40,000 in debt now. I make enough money to pay monthly on my school debt and still have plenty for a mortgage, bills, food, fun, etc.
Going to school was the best thing I could have done with my life.
My advice is to get a degree that translates directly to a job. My undergrad is psychology, which was a great major for learning sake, but sucky for finding a job. So I got a masters in human resource management. Now I work in HR for a huge international company.
School debt is a bitch but long term it is worth it.
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I've kind of done it all backwards. After screwing around at a few 8-12 month jobs and construction I took a few welding courses at the local community college. Dad had taught me how to do the basics but I needs a little more then that. Got a job welding, and have just moved up in the company. I didn't want to be a shop boy forever but I knew I wouldn;t get past it without a degree. Started working on my Bachelors in Project Mangement. moved into the office a couple years ago and now sit as a Project Estimator (Right under the Project Managers).
I'm in a decent position.........but I still will owe roughly $40k when its done in june......
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I went to Urinary Tract Infection too. I will say it gave me more insight into car, beyond being a kid who would just take shit apart and jerry rig it back together.
Other than that, kinda a waste of time.
I work now managing the parts dept at a local indie Euro shop. I'm about to switch to another shop a friend is acquiring for a considerable jump up in pay and job duties.
I was never good in school. Seemed everything has algebra in it and that's not my cup-o-tea. So I quit community collage (which I started after getting back from UTI because I knew I screwed up) when I got my current job.
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Currently no degree, but working a new position as a parts consultant at a VW store. Once I finish training and get job stable, I plan on looking further into school and what I want to do.
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Originally posted by Massimo View Post
Jesus Christ dude I hope that is dept for schooling not cars lol
Its still alot of money tho.
Currently I am now working at a Kia Dealership in San Diego. I know nothing of the car sales business but right now Im working in marketing and sales training to learn the business.
Its sucks balls
But this industry has high ceilings and deep pockets so im going to stick it out for a while and see where I end up. my plan b is to go back and get a masters in COMM.
FML
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Everyone pushes their kids into university now. This has created a load of bachelors level trained people applying for the same jobs. People are doing masters degrees now to "stand out" among their peers, just like they were doing bachelors degrees twenty five years ago to "stand out" among the non post secondary educated.
I did about 2 years of post secondary, with no idea what I really wanted to do. I got out, was a ski patroller for a few years, and went and got a marketable trade and specialized in a few areas. This has led me to make a good living over the last 18 years or so. Last year I made the least I have made in 6 years, around 80k, but I took 6 weeks off.
The best part is as I get older, I can work for myself and pick and choose jobs and hours.
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Originally posted by 325Projectz View Posti second this. no degree and i have a great career. although i'm still working on my degree.
own your job, always be positive, act like you want to be there, leave your personal life at home, never be short with employees/customers.
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Originally posted by slaterd View PostI can't side with you guys more, here's my situation. I went to school for 3 years and never got my degree... A degree really just lets you get in the door, it doesn't guarantee anything.
own your job, always be positive, act like you want to be there, leave your personal life at home, never be short with employees/customers.
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