Mini or Mazda3 or Golf

[ajhostetter]

Possibly because diesel engines use glow plugs?

I was making joke.

[hammrdwn510]

I vote sonic HB 1.4teerbo or sedan.

Picked up an lt hatch two weeks ago and love it, pretty much loaded and under 20k out the door. Don't know what their lease options are but worth a look IMO

[Exodus_2pt0]

What are you talking about? You do know the points/rotor/cap/etc hasn't been used in a car in like 20 years right? Because I'm sure you're not talking about how unreliable solid-state electronics are because you'd really make yourself look stupid. And I know you're not talking about glow plugs being more reliable than spark plugs plugs because then you really are proving yourself to be a moron.

And I really gotta laugh at anyone on this forum talking about how torque is the king of useable power - HELLO 325e! But all of you hypocrites will immediately jump on how terrible it is even though it's an absolute torque MONSTER and it revs higher than a diesel! But no, buy the smaller engine car because it revs higher! So which is it then you hypocrites?

Yea, I have no idea what a crank position sensor, cam position sensor, ignition control module, or coil is.

Still more parts than a fuel injector per cylinder. Oh and no throttle body either.

Fact is that your claim of diesel engines having more parts to fail is bullshit.

[Hooffenstein HD]

Have you ever bought spark plugs for a diesel?? They're like...impossible to find.

Possibly because diesel engines use glow plugs?

[ST1G]

Have you ever bought spark plugs for a diesel?? They're like...impossible to find.

Challenge accepted.

[ajhostetter]

I see 2 fails.

Torque is the king of usable power.

And yea, because that Diesel ignition system adds so many parts...

Have you ever bought spark plugs for a diesel?? They're like...impossible to find.

[Northern]

Go mazda, because fuck VW.


I may have an '09 mazda 3 hatch parts/dog hauler, that I beat because I hate it (boring, soulless economy car) but it does the job well, and I've only done oil changes and new rear brakes in the past 2 years.

[Liquidity]

I see 2 fails.

Torque is the king of usable power.

And yea, because that Diesel ignition system adds so many parts...

What are you talking about? You do know the points/rotor/cap/etc hasn't been used in a car in like 20 years right? Because I'm sure you're not talking about how unreliable solid-state electronics are because you'd really make yourself look stupid. And I know you're not talking about glow plugs being more reliable than spark plugs plugs because then you really are proving yourself to be a moron.

And I really gotta laugh at anyone on this forum talking about how torque is the king of useable power - HELLO 325e! But all of you hypocrites will immediately jump on how terrible it is even though it's an absolute torque MONSTER and it revs higher than a diesel! But no, buy the smaller engine car because it revs higher! So which is it then you hypocrites?

[masayahin]

Leasing so I could do tax write-off on the mileage and lease.

It is mainly for work and I'm a self-employed that has to travel far and wide to make some good decent hard earned living and pay my taxes to help the American economy.

[Stanley Rockafella]

i agree with the village idiot

+2

[Dozyproductions]

You must work in a galaxy far far away. Is leasing the way to go on this one?

[masayahin]

Thanks for the reply guys... over the weekend i test drove both and my driving experience are as follows

2014 Jetta SportWagen TDI
- Station wagon (feels like a minivan inside but smaller headroom and closer to the ground)
- Dash and controls are normal, nominally conservative design.
- Engine Noise was obvious and sounds like my 4Runner (should be ok since I usually listens to NPR/FM radio)
- Sun/Moon roof was huge and amazing
- Navigation screen was tiny
- Cloth seats
- mileage says 42-45 mpg depending on my driving pattern
- High $300's monthly lease - $1K dp
- everyone's telling me they're a pain to work on when it breaks

2014 Mazda3 s Grand Touring
- Hatchback is like a minivan but smaller
- Dash and controls are impressive
- Engine Noise much better and pulls like a car
- Much fun to mod/cosmetics only as it is Auto as Wife/Daughter might drive it in future
- Much better sound system (Bose)
- Leather seats
- Mileage says 35-37 mpg
- Low $400 lease - $1K dp (sales rep just don't give in)
- No horror maintenance stories just that its a japanese car

leaning towards the mazda but lease cost is really botherin me...

Again, this car is mainly for driving to work only ~200 hgwy miles daily. BUT will keep it for Daughter's first car. This is not I want but a need for me to use for work.

Ford Focus/Fiesta and Golf are good cars but is too small to place some tools and stuff, would be tight to put 3 people/guys in the back. buying anything expensive like bmw/audi is not reasonable. Honda Civic's/Toyota Corolla's are great reliable cars but dont have appeal to me... my travel is already long and
want something to live it up even a little.

again thanks for the feedback.

[Exodus_2pt0]

^ lol. Good one.

[Hooffenstein HD]

I also agree with the village idiot when he says to get a regular fuelled car but only because most diesels are made by VW and VW are the poorest quality cars in existence.

[Kevinl]

I agree with the Village Idiot