My personal research into sugar consumption

[ST1G]

I've read a lot about some very suspicious correlation between Nicolas Cage films and swimming pool drownings. There are quite a few other extremely suspicious correlations that are super spooky.



What makes me really worried is how the shortage pirates is causing global warming.

[Stanley Rockafella]

where this thread has gone...lol

[Ether-D]

My god we need MORE PIRATES!!!!!!!!! PRONTO!

[cale]

where this thread has gone...lol

As opposed to the joke that it began as? This is a car forum, we don't need foolish nutritional misinformation with anecdotal examples and links to blogs.

[FLYNAVY]

As opposed to the joke that it began as? This is a car forum, we don't need foolish nutritional misinformation with anecdotal examples and links to blogs.

but but anecdotes are fact, just like internet forums

[ajhostetter]

As opposed to the joke that it began as? This is a car forum, we don't need foolish nutritional misinformation with anecdotal examples and links to blogs.

Yeah, but this is off-topic, and you wouldn't have gotten those little gems from ST1G. In all, I'm giving this thread 3 1/2 stars.

[Lionel]

What about American food processors biggest secret, hidden sugar.

I like how John Oliver pokes fun at it but its a very serious subject. At the 1 min mark forward.

Mom has diabetes so I always keep an eye out for the stuff.

John Oliver: Sugar (HBO): http://youtu.be/MepXBJjsNxs

[ak-]

:ST1G:

How's your A1C bruh?

As of late September. Fight me. :p
You?
Can you believe it was 14 when I found out in Jan. '13? God, I literally felt like shit.

[ELVA164]

Wow, that's awesome! My last one was 6.7 I believe, but im waiting on results for the latest test. Nice work!

[Dozyproductions]

Able to substantiate the claim in bold? This is a number you pulled out of your ass and isn't remotely true. The health risks of HFCS are greatly exaggerated, the final form used to sweeten things like Coke is actually very similar to table sugar. It's forms of with extremely high fructose that the liver is hit hard from but those are used far less frequently and in much smaller quantities.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup

Where are you getting your info from then? Processed foods are not natural and by default you're body will have a harder time digesting. Your HFCS wiki argument hasn't done anything to dispel the joke that you claim this thread to be.

My neurologist has found correlation between seizures and high processed/sugar foods and has told me to limit myself as much as possible. Since she told me this I've lessened my intake of 'processed' foods and sugar and have experienced a dramatic decrease in seizures. I mention my condition, and many other times, because it's a brain dysfunction and we all know how important that thing is.

[cale]

Where are you getting your info from then? Processed foods are not natural and by default you're body will have a harder time digesting. Your HFCS wiki argument hasn't done anything to dispel the joke that you claim this thread to be.

My neurologist has found correlation between seizures and high processed/sugar foods and has told me to limit myself as much as possible. Since she told me this I've lessened my intake of 'processed' foods and sugar and have experienced a dramatic decrease in seizures. I mention my condition, and many other times, because it's a brain dysfunction and we all know how important that thing is.

You cannot make the blanket claim that processed = bad. There are different levels of processing, and not all processing results in food product with nil nutritional value. Are you going to claim that genetically modified food is also by default bad?

My link was in response to one posters claim of HFCS being 10x worse than table sugar, it's absolutely bogus. HFCS is shunned because it is usually only found in foods with poor nutritional value, and generally consumed by people who live off those types of foods alone. Someone who eats an otherwise balanced diet is not going to have horrible results from blood work because they ate a few Ritz crackers a day which containt HFCS, contrary to what Dr. Oz may have told you.

Your neurologist told you to eat healthy, there's no surprise that a correlation is found between healthy eating and overall health improving. I'm not sure of your condition, but for epileptics I cannot find a reputable source of information that provides a link between high sugar intake and seizures. If she has something published to substantiate that I'd love to read it, otherwise I'm willing to bet she just gave you the generic "processed is bad" spiel that most doctors (neurologists are not nutritionists, regardless of their level of schooling) provide without a solid understanding of why it can be bad. A proper diet where you get all your macro and micro nutrients is the goal here, highly processed foods more often than not lack in the latter and that's where the negative connotation comes from. There's not some secret ingredient in there which makes them inherently bad. Again, different levels of processing, they're not all the same.

[ak-]

Wow, that's awesome! My last one was 6.7 I believe, but im waiting on results for the latest test. Nice work!

Nice man, keep it up. (Well, down in this case lol).

[Dozyproductions]

You cannot make the blanket claim that processed = bad. There are different levels of processing, and not all processing results in food product with nil nutritional value. Are you going to claim that genetically modified food is also by default bad?

My link was in response to one posters claim of HFCS being 10x worse than table sugar, it's absolutely bogus. HFCS is shunned because it is usually only found in foods with poor nutritional value, and generally consumed by people who live off those types of foods alone. Someone who eats an otherwise balanced diet is not going to have horrible results from blood work because they ate a few Ritz crackers a day which containt HFCS, contrary to what Dr. Oz may have told you.

If she has something published to substantiate that I'd love to read it,

She actually has, and if I can find it I will. She's involved in research in the UCSD scripps institute fyi.

And...Okay well you're spiel is 'eat a healthy diet and you should be fine.' Eating too much sugar is a discussion about what a healthy diet consists of so in essence you're arguing about the same thing and not in total opposite encampments. Plus the #'s you linked fall under the same causation/correlation paradox that you've brought up before unless there's anything else you ain't linking us ;)

Adding sugar to 'processed foods' adds no extra nutrients or fiber to help you're body tear that shit down and regulate blood sugar levels. So an all encompassing processed foods are bad is still relevant no?

IMO, the closer the diet we keep to our hunter/gathering roots the healthier we'll remain and unfortunately sugar, as we're talking about it now, wasn't part of it.

[cale]

Eating too much sugar is a discussion about what a healthy diet consists of so in essence you're arguing about the same thing and not in total opposite encampments.

No, I most certainly am not. The links provided in this thread have been senseless ones telling people to eat less sugar and eat more fruit, because sugar is bad mmm'kay. They provide no nutritional reasoning for this, and I'm willing to bet the "authors" aka bloggers have no solid understanding of why substituting a sugar found in a sweet food with sugars found in fruit is futile. People need to learn what they're putting into their bodies, how it effects them and how much of anything they should be consuming.

Many North Americans and Europeans have a diet far too high in carbs thanks to a bread based diet as well as too many fats. More often than not trans fats, something that has no place in our diets and is unanimously shunned by dietitians. Yet we tell our kids no you can't have the cookie because of the sugar, have this wonderbread sandwich with Jiffy peanut butter instead.

Adding sugar to 'processed foods' adds no extra nutrients or fiber to help you're body tear that shit down and regulate blood sugar levels. So an all encompassing processed foods are bad is still relevant no?

Sugar is not inherently bad, so no I will not concede that it is the reason we'd paint all processed foods with the same brush. Food processing is done for many more reasons than adding sweeteners, big part of it is to increase shelf life.

[Dozyproductions]

But Jiffy peanut butter is high in protein ;)

Inherently it isn't, but as it's used on average by Americans it is. Also using artificial sweeteners (processed), used in a plethora of things, while perhaps not giving you cancer can screw with many other health related issues.

Yet, my polish family's entire diet is centered around bread and the stuff is starting to be cursed as sin. I don't think I have anyone in my family die naturally before the age of 90 and they've all have stay mentally and physically sharp as if they stopped aging at 60. /anecdotal