Anyone know someone with Borderline Personality Disorder?

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  • marshallnoise
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    • Sep 2013
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    #1

    Anyone know someone with Borderline Personality Disorder?

    Just curious.

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  • Wschnitz
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    • Dec 2011
    • 8089

    #2
    I knew a few people through online groups who were pretty obviously Bipolar or Personality disorder.

    They are very unpredictable to talk to sometimes, and other times you cant even tell.

    On guy who get pissed at someone for no reason, then go back to normal, and then switch to another, then be buddy buddy again. Repeat.

    Ive never known for sure if Ive met someone in person who had one though. Im sure its pretty awkward, hard vs online.
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    • ak-
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      • May 2009
      • 12422

      #3
      I could only guess, but can't confirm unless I ask or they were willing to tell me, so maybe?

      Tough to work with.

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      • marshallnoise
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        • Sep 2013
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        #4
        Originally posted by Wschnitz
        I knew a few people through online groups who were pretty obviously Bipolar or Personality disorder.

        They are very unpredictable to talk to sometimes, and other times you cant even tell.

        On guy who get pissed at someone for no reason, then go back to normal, and then switch to another, then be buddy buddy again. Repeat.

        Ive never known for sure if Ive met someone in person who had one though. Im sure its pretty awkward, hard vs online.
        It is hard to judge someone's mental state online, I agree. I think the anti-social stuff is pretty easy to see. Anger issues and whatnot.

        BPD is something that is really hard to pick up on unless you are in a relationship (family usually) with them. They share traits with Narcissistic Personality Disorder with the difference being that BPD usually react out of intense abandonment and fear where NPD tend to eat people alive with little remorse. BPD are in a constant state of fight or flight. Everything is filtered through emotions and they have had life experiences that have programmed their thought process to self-preserve (the relation to narcissism).
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        • kickinindian
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          • Jan 2012
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          • Bearmw
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            • Aug 2010
            • 1323

            #6
            I wouldn't get too caught up in the actual diagnosis of BPD. Bad behavior is bad behavior regardless of the exact label and over time the "experts" such as those responsible for the DSM-5 and its predecessors are continually changing criteria and diagnosis. If you have BPD good luck to you and try not to be an asshole. If you know someone with BPD good luck also and don't be an asshole either but instead learn to take care of yourself. No one can fix someone else. Change is possible to some degree but I wouldn't ever bet on it. Its more cost effective to change yourself than try to fix someone else.
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            • rcsoundn1
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              • Nov 2012
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              #7
              What is it that you are looking to learn? This is what I do for a living. I am licensed in two states to assess, and diagnose mental disorders, and deal with clients on a daily basis. Be careful what you read/hear on the net and from unlicensed people. MANY people claim to be social workers, but have no training/education/license to practice. It’s a muddy field, most do not know enough about it to give accurate advice.

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              • 2mAn
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                • Aug 2010
                • 20064

                #8
                My Fiance also deals with these types and many others. She says they are the hardest ones to deal with. GL
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                • marshallnoise
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bearmw
                  I wouldn't get too caught up in the actual diagnosis of BPD. Bad behavior is bad behavior regardless of the exact label and over time the "experts" such as those responsible for the DSM-5 and its predecessors are continually changing criteria and diagnosis. If you have BPD good luck to you and try not to be an asshole. If you know someone with BPD good luck also and don't be an asshole either but instead learn to take care of yourself. No one can fix someone else. Change is possible to some degree but I wouldn't ever bet on it. Its more cost effective to change yourself than try to fix someone else.
                  Yeah, I don't have it but someone real close to me does. I am reading "Stop Walking On Eggshells" and it echos what you are saying. I do know that the name is an old holdover from the 70s and really has changed meaning over those years. Not sure what you would call it really.

                  Originally posted by rcsoundn1
                  What is it that you are looking to learn? This is what I do for a living. I am licensed in two states to assess, and diagnose mental disorders, and deal with clients on a daily basis. Be careful what you read/hear on the net and from unlicensed people. MANY people claim to be social workers, but have no training/education/license to practice. It’s a muddy field, most do not know enough about it to give accurate advice.
                  A psychologist who was working with me and the other person said that there is strong indication that the other person has BPD. It's not a self-diagnosed or interweb diagnosed thing. My goal for asking the forum is just to see if anyone has had relationships with people who have had the diagnosis. Just wanted to see what their experiences were.

                  Originally posted by 2mAn
                  My Fiance also deals with these types and many others. She says they are the hardest ones to deal with. GL
                  Yeah, I have heard that before. Thanks for sharing.
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                  • DEV0 E30
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                    • Oct 2004
                    • 8807

                    #10
                    Originally posted by marshallnoise
                    A psychologist who was working with me and the other person said that there is strong indication that the other person has BPD. It's not a self-diagnosed or interweb diagnosed thing. My goal for asking the forum is just to see if anyone has had relationships with people who have had the diagnosis. Just wanted to see what their experiences were.
                    Is this other person a significant other? I assume so the way you phrased this.

                    BPD can be rather scary, being close to it or trying to help a person is even scarier. I know someone who has been dealing with it for years now. I've tried to help or have a hands off approach, his depression makes him a danger to himself but refuses any help.

                    Often times BPD is mixed with other things, even if properly diagnosed it's hard to help the individual with a healthy path.
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                    • marshallnoise
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                      • Sep 2013
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                      Is this other person a significant other? I assume so the way you phrased this.

                      BPD can be rather scary, being close to it or trying to help a person is even scarier. I know someone who has been dealing with it for years now. I've tried to help or have a hands off approach, his depression makes him a danger to himself but refuses any help.

                      Often times BPD is mixed with other things, even if properly diagnosed it's hard to help the individual with a healthy path.
                      You assumed correctly. It is kind of frightening to be honest. I never wanted to fix this person, honestly. I thought that if I could provide stability and peace, it would get better. But since its been eight years and there has been more regression than anything plus the informal diagnosis from our psychologist, I am learning that providing a safe place and stability simply isn't enough. The biggest thing, like all things in life, is understanding I am responsible for me and she is responsible for herself. The phrase "you can lead a horse to water" really applies here.
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                      • DEV0 E30
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                        • Oct 2004
                        • 8807

                        #12
                        Sorry to hear, but at least you have the right outlook. You can truly only control yourself in this life. Nobody ever wants to give up, but look out for yourself.
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                        • marshallnoise
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                          Sorry to hear, but at least you have the right outlook. You can truly only control yourself in this life. Nobody ever wants to give up, but look out for yourself.
                          Thanks man. I appreciate the encouragement.
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                          • doorman
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                            • Mar 2015
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                            #14
                            My sister in law is according to my wife (wife is an LCSW).

                            She's had a fairly "difficult" life because of it.
                            Currently going thru a divorce with 4 kids.
                            Been rough for my wife and I to deal with/help her out.

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                            • ThatOneEuroE30
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                              • Dec 2013
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                              #15
                              A buddy of mine has severe bi polar. Some of your may remember him as N8GE... He's all good now. We've got him back down to earth he's got a job just dealing with the depression from his psychotic melt down he knows he fucked up and is doing all he can to make it right.


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